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I can't believe I'm linking the Mail again, but Martin Samuel's piece on John Terry and the racism allegations is excellent.

4 months ago Avatar_tiny Graham MacAree 34 comments 2 recs  | 

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by CanadianBlue on Feb 2, 2012 5:45 PM GMT up reply actions  

I agree completely

by PeeDub on Feb 2, 2012 5:53 PM GMT via mobile up reply actions  

What!

We're silly?

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by Maiev on Feb 2, 2012 8:31 PM GMT up reply actions  

This is one of those things that has already been decided in the court of public opinion.

I can’t see any way people accept a not-guilty verdict, barring some spectacular evidence. That’s the problem with the court of public opinion; It doesn’t require evidence.

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by Kevin Kostka on Feb 1, 2012 11:55 PM GMT reply actions  

Favourited, reposted and rec'd

Amazing piece.

5 Up, 5 Down - A uniquely unofficial look at the comings and goings of Chelsea FC and the EPL

by CanadianBlue on Feb 2, 2012 2:23 AM GMT reply actions  

Agreed...

Pity the BBC website is running the Jason Roberts story….

by sdb123 on Feb 2, 2012 9:08 AM GMT up reply actions  

The strange piece

About this whole incident, is that it resulted from people outside the game looking at some video tape and then building the story. Initially I think there was no big issue from the players themselves. Once the issue was created by the media, the rest have jumped on. Has the England dressing room been toxic the last number of times Terry has captained the team since September? Why would it be now? Jason Roberts just wants to make a name for himself in the media now that his career is on the downward slope.

by chelsea59 on Feb 2, 2012 2:58 PM GMT reply actions  

The problem is I think hes guilty.

I think he knows he’ll be found guilty and delayed it till after the tournament so he could remain as captain. There’s no other reason. An innocent man wouldn’t want this hanging over his head. he would want it gone asap. I suspect he will retire from international football right after the tournament. He will be crucified and he knows it. He may even loose the Chelsea captaincy for it so he’s pushed it to this summer to give himself some time. The thing is he called him a F*%king Black C*&t which for my money is less about the black part which is descriptive and more about the C*&t which is an insulting word. And i’m sure players talk shit like that all the time. But you can’t get caught.

Just my 2 cents

by joady on Feb 2, 2012 5:02 PM GMT reply actions  

It was a combination of the club finding it easier to deal with in the off-season...

…the players possible involvement in Euro 2012 and the Olympics, and Anton’s holiday in June.

This is probably the best time to deal with it for all involved.

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by Kevin Kostka on Feb 2, 2012 6:15 PM GMT up reply actions  

Generally, it's up to the judge to set the trial date

Unless this works differently in the UK than over here.
The lawyers may have some input, but they do not decide the date. Neither does the club, nor the FA. The court/CPS may take the season and the offseason comps into account, but they’re still the ones setting the date.

by DPeezy on Feb 2, 2012 6:32 PM GMT up reply actions  

Wasn't it related to those things, though?

I saw somewhere, but I’m not sure where, that the judge set the date based on being made aware of those things.

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by Kevin Kostka on Feb 2, 2012 6:41 PM GMT up reply actions  

I wrote this up (it's like two posts down)

The witnesses are unavailable until after the Euros. You could argue that Terry engineered it that way, but considering that Ashley Cole, who was right there, is a reasonable witness to have, that strikes me as a silly argument.

by Graham MacAree on Feb 2, 2012 6:51 PM GMT up reply actions  

I'm not disagreeing.

I was just elaborating on the reasons I’ve heard were given for why the most available time for everyone involved.

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by Kevin Kostka on Feb 2, 2012 7:23 PM GMT up reply actions  

Yep, you're right
Mr Carter-Stephenson handed the district judge a letter from Chelsea chief executive Ron Gourlay, who appealed for the trial to be delayed until after his players’ domestic and international footballing commitments are over for the season.

by Graham MacAree on Feb 2, 2012 10:23 PM GMT up reply actions  

Is that

Conspiracy theory? The Judge isn't impartial?

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by Maiev on Feb 2, 2012 8:30 PM GMT up reply actions  

I sort of agree with you

The longer this goes on, the more guilty Terry seems. He should have told his legal team to just do the trial as soon as possible.

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by Iced O on Feb 3, 2012 4:31 AM GMT up reply actions  

I am a little bit sad to read this

because it needs to be said in all that detailedness, though that should be something to be taken for granted

Tor ilisar'thera'nal!

by Maiev on Feb 2, 2012 5:16 PM GMT reply actions  

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