Updates on Gokhan Tore and Slobodan Rajkovic
by Stephen Schmidt on Jan 5, 2012 7:25 PM GMT
in Chelsea FC: Transfer Rumours & News
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One of the major surprises so far this season has been the development of Gokhan Tore into one of the better players in Germany this spring and has led many to question why he was allowed to leave Chelsea at all. Some interesting news has been confirmed by former Chelsea DoF Frank Arnesen today in the German media. According to the Hamburger Morganpost, Arnesen has been attributed with the following quote on the Tore situation:
Gokhan is our player, but Chelsea would get in a sale 50 percent.
Arnesen was reportedly being asked if their was any truth to the recent rumors that Chelsea had some sort of partial ownership or buyback clause. While that doesn't appear to be the case, it definitely appears that Chelsea are in a very favorable position to make a serious amount of money if Tore leaves the club before 2014. Tore's value has skyrocketed, and the player and his agent are already talking openly about a move to Turkey this coming summer.
We also made a bit of a forced sale of Slobodan Rajkovic when he was again denied a work permit this summer. Arnesen also revealed in the same interview that Chelsea have the option to buy him back for the same fee that they sold him for at any time during the player's contract, so we do have a 2 million Euro option on a quality backup center back should we feel he's in a position to be granted a work permit. That's two bits of good news out of Hamburg this morning...now let's all cross our fingers and hope somebody approaches HSV with an offer of silly money.
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Rajkovic
Great to see this officially confirmed after some rumors.
Does anyone know how repeat UK work permit applications work? As in, at what point could Chelsea re-apply for a permit?
Stephen, how would you compare a young but solid Rajkovic to some of the other CB targets on our list? It doesn’t seem like he’s a Prem quality permanent starter, but I wonder if he could evolve into one? Thoughts?
He's good enough to play in the Premier League
I don’t know if he’s good enough to be in the Chelsea rotation. He’s been hurt, so it’s a bit hard to say at the moment.
by Stephen Schmidt on Jan 5, 2012 7:35 PM GMT up reply actions
Work permit issues
If I’m right,he has to have played in a certain high percentage of his national team’s matches for us to be eligible to apply for a work permit for Rajkovic. Always been impressed by him. Dunno if he can be as good as Kalas,though. They’re both very good,in any case.
by Avinash Mohan on Jan 5, 2012 7:44 PM GMT via mobile up reply actions
We can apply at any time
If he’s played a certain amount for his national team then he automatically qualifies, in Rajkovic’s case a panel decides.
by Stephen Schmidt on Jan 5, 2012 7:48 PM GMT up reply actions
Why was he denied work permission earlier?
Cheers,
Rohi D
by Rohi D on Jan 6, 2012 2:50 AM GMT via mobile up reply actions
Because for several years, the reviewing panel for the permit application was full of 'chebags
Big meanie’s, the lot of them. It’s good to know he could be brought back to the team.. not that it was all Chelsea’s fault, but hope there isn’t any ill-will about the time spent not playing. Glad he gets some first team action these days.
If I recall correctly
Rakjovic didn’t have enough international caps for non friendlies as he’s behind three very good players so that was a determining factor.
To the best of my knowledge
You have to demonstrate that the guy you want to employ is able to do the job to a better standard than somebody that could be found within the EU.
Generally with footballers, being a regular feature of the national team is good enough, to the extent that if you’ve made more than a certain number then you pretty much qualify by default.
For those that are not a regular feature of their national team, you can make an appeal for special dispensation if you can prove that the guy is good enough. Obviously the powers that be decided that Rajkovic doesn’t have enough evidence of his quality yet, so he got rejected.
It's kind of the Barca/Romeu thing
We gave HSV a great deal on some players largely because they made some concessions to us. Win/win.
by Stephen Schmidt on Jan 5, 2012 7:49 PM GMT up reply actions
so ...
you’re implying that Barca do in fact have a buyback option? b/c i thought that Chelsea had come out after Guardiola’s contradiction of AVB’s comments, reasserting that it is only a right of first refusal … Romeu will be world class soon, would hate to lose him.
It's irrelevant anyway
If/when Romeu wants to leave, Chelsea will sell him to Barcelona, who will want him.
by Al Benson on Jan 6, 2012 9:46 AM GMT via mobile up reply actions
They have some sort of option
How exactly it will work appears to be up for debate but it’s pretty clear that it wasn’t a run of the mill sale
by Stephen Schmidt on Jan 6, 2012 12:29 PM GMT up reply actions
Any idea on how much Tore left us for?
by el chelsea fuerte on Jan 5, 2012 7:50 PM GMT reply actions
Free
He was unhappy in England and wanted to be allowed to move to Germany
by Stephen Schmidt on Jan 5, 2012 8:00 PM GMT up reply actions
If we were to buy tore back (unlikely) then we would pay half-price?
hopefully chelsea starts doing this more. I also like what madrid do with their players the sell them then buy then back (even though they dont play them) kind of like they are going to do w rodrigo this season
Where is the meatloaf?
Er, there's rumors of Lampard to United. It's all over twitter with some big ITKs backing
the story. The Daily Star is reporting the same too. It’s on their front page but be warned it’s NSFW and I wont link it.
I don't know how seriously I'd be taking that
I’d gladly sell him to United if he wants to go though
by Stephen Schmidt on Jan 5, 2012 10:57 PM GMT up reply actions
lol true in fact
lol if he were to WANT to go to united, then he’d be off. but i highly doubt this
I don't want to ever see Lamps in a Utd shirt.
I don’t think I could handle it.
My thoughts...
1) It doesn’t really help United. A 33 year old isn’t the answer to their CM problems
2) It saves us the issue of dealing with Lampard’s role declining. Letting him leave allows us to get younger and probably better and allows him to depart with Chelsea fans last memories being of a useful Frank.
3) We owe him 12.5 million pounds of salary in the next 18 months. Add any potential small fee to that and all of a sudden we have a LOT of money to spend.
4) It probably helps to take United out of the market for more useful long term CM’s for the moment
by Stephen Schmidt on Jan 6, 2012 5:33 PM GMT up reply actions
Every thing can't be practical
We follow football clubs with emotions not due to practical thinking.If we followed a club with mind everyone will be supporting Barca.We have so many emotions attached with Frank I cant stand him playing for another and him playing for man ure will absolutely kill me.
If practicality is going out the window in favor of sentimentality...
Everyone needs to stop whining about the dropped points. Our squad from 2006 is past their prime enough that it isn’t a top four squad. Frank is pretty clearly unhappy as a rotational player. How should we handle that? Keep him in a continually diminished role that he clearly dislikes? Play him every day and drop further down the table? Part ways with the player and make all parties happy? As fans we can be somewhat sentimental about Frank and his time here, the club doesn’t have that option if they wish to continue winning regularly.
by Stephen Schmidt on Jan 6, 2012 7:21 PM GMT up reply actions
Maybe Frank is just unhappy about THIS season?
because its the Euro year right,so he’ll obviously want to keep playing regularly to keep his England spot. Particularly with Gerrard coming back,despite Frank being better than him. It is quite possibly his last big international tournament. From next season he’d probably be more okay with doing a Scholes-like role for us.
by Avinash Mohan on Jan 7, 2012 7:14 AM GMT via mobile up reply actions
Well, if twitter says so
I read The Daily Mail “article” on it and as is usual with such nonsense it contains absolutely no quotes, a minor prognostication from some random magical inside source, and a bunch of fluff around all that. The kicker in this particular instance was the quote from Ferguson from 2005 calling Lampard an “exceptional individual.”
Thanks for the laugh.
Josh McEachran
has tweeted that he isn’t sure yet where he is going out on loan. He’ll let everyone know as soon as he knows.
So, the BASKET finally opens….
Well, at least we know he's going on loan!
Luckily for him majority of PL action resumes on the 14th.
by el chelsea fuerte on Jan 6, 2012 4:54 AM GMT up reply actions
Tweet back to him and tell him to join United. They're in dire need of midfielders.
by Valens on Jan 6, 2012 4:57 AM GMT up reply actions 1 recs
Why give them Josh when we can give them Lampard ;)
Kidding! I wouldn’t sell anything to United.. except maybe Bosingwa’s momentary lapses and that handball of Kalou’s, and Meireles’s bad tackles and long shots to nowhere… maybe I’l throw in some Torres’s non-shooting, and a little Playstation DL spasm while I’m at it. That is all they may have.
Yes please.
Malouda could take Giggs’ old role as past his prime winger as Giggs is now at Grandfather’d in winger status.
No no... not the players
just what sucks about them :) They don’t even get the players… not even the ones we’d like to see go the most. They’d pull a Glen Johnson on Chelsea.
They'd be not good enough
and then go to two more places and still not be good enough?? :)
Not good enough...
and then score a GOAL on us!
Not saying he is amazing... I am speaking in jest here..
(my sarcasm has backfired before)
Agreed...
that or Bolton would be my choices.
even if there WERE a power struggle
AVB would win. i understand and relate with a lot of fans’ frustration at (barely) being 4th at this point … but acknowledging the transitional period, with AVB at the helm, Chelsea is the future. think about this lineup:
Cech
(new RB) Luiz (new CB) (new LB)
Romeu
Ramires – Mata
Sturridge – Torres – (new LW — Hazard, someone of that level)
4 new players out of 11 and Chelsea is set up for the next 5 years at least … i really think at least two of these will be addressed in the next window, with the talented youth providing depth and competition (McEachran, Lukaku, Chalobah, Piazon, Kakuta(?), Feruz(?, etc.)) breaking into the first team. it really fits the blueprint of a new Chelsea in a coherent way … i’m thankful we got AVB, and so far it seems Michael Emenalo has been doing an excellent job. what kind of a coup was Mata? how great does the Ramires acquisition seem? Luiz?? it seems the underwhelming Torres has detracted from some recent exemplary business. what team in the BPL wouldn’t want Mata, Ramires and Luiz?
I think just 3 positions need to be filled
Attacking mid – Goetze/Eriksen
Winger – Hazard, Gaston Ramirez, Lucas Moura
RB – Azpilicueta
(I’m counting Cahill as a done deal. Besides, in a year or 2 Kalas will come in)
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