Ganso
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The history of Ganso resembles the history of many other Brazilian young footballers all around the country. Born in distant Ananindeua, the 2nd biggest city of Pará, a state in the North region, Ganso started playing futsal (indoor football), like most Brazilian wonders, at the age of 7 at Tuna Luso Brasileira. There, he showed his technique and creativity by making marvelous through passes. Eventually, when he reached 15, he transfered to Paysandu's youth academy. A Santos scout and past idol, Giovanni, saw the kid and decided to bring him to Santos in 2005 with a bid of R$ 900.000 at the time. I don't have the data to translate it in euros or pounds, but it was a huge chunk of money for a player at his 16.
In 2007, he started to show his category and his injury proneness, becoming the definite number 10 for Santos under 20's team at the Copa São Paulo de Futebol Júnior, the most important youth competition in Brazil, in 2008. At the time, La Gazzetta dello Sport said he was one of the best prospects revealed by the competition.
And that's when his actual history begins.
2009 was the definite turning point. Like Neymar, Ganso was promoted to the main line-up of Santos, and both were vital to Santos' 2nd place at São Paulo State Championship. Santos didn't do much (again) in the Brazilian League at the year, but it was enough for most pundits to watch both of them play and to mark Ganso and Neymar as one of the most promising Brazilian youngsters of recent years (history of our life, eh?).
Santos in 2010 brought Robinho on loan to make a run for a national title. They managed to get the State title and the Brazilian Cup title, but they failed to win the Brazilian league. Still, we saw Ganso rising as Brazilian Cup best player, and getting his first cap in Brazil national team against USA. But an injury in his left knee (no, it wasn't caused by an arrow) put him on the medical department for 6 months.
His value was pretty high in 2010, even though he had a pretty bad injury. Many teams had interest in Ganso, and even made huge bids to get him, including Chelsea. But Santos president gratefully refused all of them; something he's probably regretful of.
2011 was a special year for Santos, but not so special for Ganso. He was back from injury in March, but pick up another one in May, which made him miss much of Copa Libertadores, the continental championship of South America (similar to UCL in importance, but not even close in the financial aspect). He was fit in time to participate in the final, and was called by Mano Menezes to integrate the Brazil squad to play Copa America (equal to UEFA Euro Championship). The whole team was a deception, including Ganso.
He picked another injury in August which sidelined him until November. He was able to participate in FIFA Club World Champinship, and to watch Santos being humiliated by Barcelona in typical Barça fashion.
Ganso has been involved in controversy about wages and his rights since 2010. He refused to sign the career plan offered to him, which was similar to the one given to Neymar, and every now and then there are brawls between Santos and the group of investors who bought a part of his rights. In the past, when they received the bids, the investors wanted Ganso to leave and Santos wanted him to stay. Now, it's the exact opposite.
I can't say that everything about Ganso is bad (m'kay?). No one can ignore his suberb capacity of finding holes to create incredible chances to his fellow colleagues. Most of the time, he have his head up, looking for someone to pass or for a space to run. He's the kind of guy who can easily set up the tempo of the match, speeding and slowing it when needed. He can even disarm balls when he wants to. And every now and then, he'll score a goal, most of the times a marvelous one.
And I can't say that everything about Ganso is good (m'kay?). Even though he's been at the top of list of assists in the league, sometimes he's a bit selfish. His inability in the air doesn't go without notice, considering his height. He also is pretty slow, and inconsistent even through games. His lack of effort in some games certainly doesn't help him at all. Like Özil, he likes when the ball is played at his feet; if it doesn't come, he won't be willing to get it. His lack of professionalism showed by how he treats the team worries everyone as well, but the main downside of Ganso is his injury history.
How can you spend £30-40 mi (which was what reports said Chelsea was offering) on a player that will most likely spend a lot of time treating an injury?
He reminds me a lot of Pedrinho: had almost all the pros and cons of Ganso, including the proneness to injury. Once tipped as a star, now he plays for a team in Rio who is not even in the Brazilian league system in any level. It's a shame, but that's football. And some can remind of other players like Thiago Neves, Rafael Sóbis, Diego Souza, Keirrison, Lenny... "New star!", media said. Now they're busts.
I can't say I root against him. I really like his style of play, but mostly due to his lack of speed and teamwork, I don't think AVB or anyone who comes after him should try to get him. We need someone like Lucas Moura, Eden Hazard or Mario Götze. Ganso would be perfect for a team which plays in a trequartista scheme, like Palermo with Pastore. Chelsea? I don't think so.
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Pretty good player
And very versatile. Another jewel from Fluminense’s youth academy. Can play in almost every position from the midfield, and thrived at Figueirense’s last season when playing as a striker. Isn’t strong or pacey, but his speed and short dribbling are surely his best weapons. Has a great technique and is reasonably good at finishing. Isn’t a force in the air. Must also be noted by his accurate passes, as he was one of best in assists in the Brazilian league. CSKA Moscow tried to get him but apparently he wants to stay at Fluminense to dispute Copa Libertadores, which will certainly increase his market value. Seems like the team is willing to trade him, and they should do it if possible next year.
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Why do Brazil always produce the best footballers?
Maybe you could export some to our islands in the Maldives…
I don't really like throwing the injury prone label on Ganso at this point
He’s suffered from two fairly major knee injuries in the last two seasons, those aren’t the type of nagging muscular problems that tend to be recurring. He’s got a pretty similar injury run to Stu Holden who I wouldn’t call injury prone at all. Sometimes shit just happens on the field, especially to younger players. Ganso has missed a bunch of time due to injuries lately, but they just aren’t the types of injuries I’d forming a pattern based on.
by Stephen Schmidt on Jan 14, 2012 6:27 PM GMT reply actions
Are you sure?
Since the youth ranks he’s been suffering injuries, like Kaká. Maybe he’ll be lucky and won’t have much trouble in this department, also considering how physiotherapy is evolving lately. Still, I don’t think he’s the player who’s going to be available for the entire season like his partner Neymar. Not only that, Ganso seems to be not too “tough”, as some reports say that even minor injuries which could be nothing and cause just a little bit of pain is enough to make him drop the field.
1970 - 1984 - 2010
"Vamos Fluzão, vamos ganhar
Eu sou do clube tantas vezes campeão!
Vim pra torcer, vim pra gritar
E por você a vida inteira vou cantar!"
He played in over 80% of their youth games from 2006-2008
That’s pretty typical for any youth setup. Generally speaking team doctors are extremely cautious with youth injuries or sicknesses and give fairly regular rest to the players as well. He was also pretty much injury free in 2009. The last two seasons have had a few setbacks in his return from major surgery, but forming a pattern based on those just doesn’t click for me.
by Stephen Schmidt on Jan 16, 2012 4:51 PM GMT up reply actions
Worth the risk?
For 15 million is it worth having a potential superstar that could be a bust, I think many of the list mentioned of busts took bad career decisions, were Ganso to come to Chelsea it would certainly improve him as a player, even if he is used as a sub, 15 is only a few million more than what we paid for Meireles and at the young age he is at he would have a good potential resale price. He would have to be put through a strenuous medical because of his injury history (this doesn’t necessarily make him injury prone though). I think it would be interesting for AVB to kick around, if we move to the 4-2-3-1 he could play in behind the striker as cover for Mata who would supposedly be there. We have many many CMs but not as many genuine creative CAMs and Ganso for that cheap price wouldn’t be the worst option. I have been going back and forth recently on whether it would be good or bad, but if he turns into a ‘superstar’ it would be an incredible thing, with the right guidance he definitely has the potenital, AVB as a mentor as well would certainly help. Rafael Sobis went out to UAE and had no guidance or discipline, it was a shocking career decision. Right now Ganso’s future could well depend on his next move. Let’s put it this way, for that price, we could do a lot worse
by CFCdiscussions on Jan 14, 2012 10:04 PM GMT reply actions
Except 15 million is not the price
by Al Benson on Jan 15, 2012 1:35 AM GMT via mobile up reply actions
There's a lot of confusion
My whole argument rested on the fact that he was worth a relatively small fee. There is no clear statement as to what the price is, but to be to fair to the media they generally get prices of players reasonably close to actual value. With Santos’ desire to sell €15 million really may not be too wide of the mark, unless you have evidence to the contrary
by CFCdiscussions on Jan 15, 2012 8:20 AM GMT up reply actions
His market value at the moment runs around € 15 million
But Santos is apparently asking for € 20~25 million. No club in the world would pay that kind of money to get Ganso anyway, so I’d say you can get him for € 15 million if he doesn’t start to play at his 2010 level.
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"Vamos Fluzão, vamos ganhar
Eu sou do clube tantas vezes campeão!
Vim pra torcer, vim pra gritar
E por você a vida inteira vou cantar!"

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