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MATCH ANALYSIS: Chelsea 1-3 Manchester United

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Chelsea played a very odd game over the weekend, losing 3-1 to Manchester United at Old Trafford despite generating enough chances to score three or four goals. Furthermore, Andre Villas-Boas opted to go to the seat of United's power and attack, which rather threw everyone off. While it turns out that that might not have been the best idea in the world, it sure made for an interesting match. Formation chart after the jump.

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Formation



Figure 1: Manchester Unitted vs. Chelsea starting formations, 9/18/2011. Mouseover players for stats. Data: Guardian Chalkboards. Powered by Tableau.

From the tactical standpoint, there wasn't much unusual going on, so far as Manchester United are concerned. Sir Alex Ferguson has bucked the tactical trend of late, focusing on wide play and using two banks of four in defence. His 4-4-1-1 has nonetheless been very effective, mostly because the wide players are very good and Wayne Rooney's habit of roaming into the midfield while ostensibly playing as second striker mitigates many of the problems that a two-striker system presents.

Many analysts have pointed to United's shape as the key factor behind their unconvincing performance in Europe, especially against Barcelona, but I would disagree. Going toe to toe vs. Barcelona in central midfield is hubris in the extreme, so one should focus elsewhere. In Ferguson's case, he's targetting the wings whilst unleashing Rooney in the centre for maximum chaos and mayhem.

Unfortunately for United, that choice plus several injury problems have meant that their centre was very vulnerable indeed. When Darren Fletcher, Anderson, Phil Jones and Johnny Evans are essentially the core of a side, that side will be vulnerable down the middle. It was there than Andre Villas-Boas chose to target.

A Chelsea staff member told me [Sunday] morning they'd play open as they had nothing to lose accepting United superior but hoping chances would be created and taken.

-Guillem Balague. Source: Twitter.

It's unclear just how much truth is in that tweet, but what is certain is that Villas-Boas opted for an extremely open match. Raul Meireles was once more summoned into the holding role, flanked by Ramires and Frank Lampard. Fernando Torres was the man to lead the line, with Juan Mata and Daniel Sturridge on the left and right wing. The only other surprise was that David Luiz was benched in favour of Branislav Ivanovic, although that particular move was almost necessitated by choosing Meireles over Mikel. It was, more or less, the same 4-3-3 that we saw at the Stadium of Light against Sunderland, although Torres was playing higher up the pitch than Nicolas Anelka did against Sunderland.

The formation was designed for a slugging match and to ask questions of a shaky United defence. It did the attacking part of its job, but suffered badly whenever the hosts were on the ball. Meireles did not do an adequate job tracking Rooney, and while John Terry and Ivanovic were nearly perfect in the way they dealt with Javier Hernandez, the wingers gave Chelsea problems throughout, because the fullbacks couldn't support the attack without opening up channels for United to launch long diagonals to their wide players. Nani in particular tore Chelsea apart, dominating a lackadaisical Ashley Cole on our left flank.

Nevertheless, the basic thrust of Villas-Boas' strategy was a success. The fact that Chelsea were down 3-0 at halftime was probably not a fair reflection on the scoreline - the Blues had generated just as many chances as United (although, I suspect, talk of Chelsea outplaying their hosts is exaggerating the matter somewhat). Although the midfield never looked fluid, chances were being generated, and the team looked menacing on the attack.

Obviously, it all went wrong - we'll get into the whys later, but that three goal deficit wasn't entirely luck - and the manager was forced to make changes in the second half, taking off Lampard for Anelka. Lampard had been the most effective midfield player in terms of retaining possession, but hadn't really helped the Chelsea cause on the attack. With a forward coming on for a midfielder, the shape had to change, and the team became a 4-2-1-3, with Ramires dropping back and Mata playing as a trequartista and Anelka taking his spot on the left wing.

Chelsea were slightly (but only slightly) more defensively capable in this new shape, and even more of a threat to score. Torres put the Blues on the board within a minute of the restart and should have scored twice more in the half. United, of course, hit the woodwork twice and missed a penalty, so they certainly weren't having any problems cutting Chelsea's defence open - the formation change didn't improve Cole's or Bosingwa's fortunes one bit.

At the end of the day, the chosen shape represented a very bold gamble. The attackers, by and large, did their jobs. The defence did not, and that is why Chelsea lost.

On Chances



Figure 2: Manchester United and Chelsea shooting, 9/28/2011.

The narrative that emerged from the game is that Chelsea were the better side. This is, so far as I can tell, utter nonsense. Yes, the Blues had more shots. Opta might tell you they generated more chances, but that's a matter of believing whatever intern they had on this game is infallible when it comes to deciding just what is a good chance and what isn't, and considering they haven't even noticed Nani's hitting the crossbar immediately before winning a penalty, I'm going to have to go with the data on this one.

Chelsea did have more shots, but the volume of shots doesn't matter - the likelihood of scoring from said shot does. The chalkboard to the right shows where the teams were shooting from (again, it's missing the Nani crossbar incident for reasons unknown).

You'll probably notice the relative lack of United shots from outside the area. Excluding attempts that were blocked, Chelsea outshot United from range by seven to two. Inside the area is a different story entirely - the difference between the two sides in terms of shooting chances is mainly concentrated in long-range shots. And long range shooting is a bad thing.

We can get an idea of how many goals any given shot is worth based solely on field position, using historical data. Obviously, this isn't ideal, because football is about player position as much as ball position, but one still suspects it's a more useful tool than simply looking at raw shot counts or the somewhat more nebulous 'chances created'. From that, and including United's penalty, we have Chelsea 'earning' 4.03 goals and United 'earning' 3.97.

In other words there was very little to separate the sides when you look at chance quality, and there was poor finishing from both parties, something entirely obvious if you watched the match. Chelsea cannot use the excuse that they were better than their opponents at generating goalscoring opportunities, because they weren't. They were, however, quite good at it, if not the finishing aspect.

Speaking of long-range shooting being, generally, a bad idea, Daniel Sturridge was a major culprit for Chelsea. The 22-year-old appeared to adopt a shoot-on-sight policy that led to a lot of efforts that flew wide or straight at David de Gea in the centre of goal. While it's fine to take risks, the long-shot is, in general, not a particularly useful one, because it usually turns easy possession into goal kicks. That's particularly dangerous when both sides are so good at attacking - because United and Chelsea were both having difficulty extracting the ball from one another, simply giving it to them was an incredibly bad idea.

This continues a trend of Sturridge playing a very odd role with the club. Sturridge never seems to be playing quite the same game as the rest of the team. That was true of Sunderland, it was true of the Bayer Leverkusen match and it was definitely true at Old Trafford - Sturridge's approach to the game was immensely English, while the rest of the team was trying to play a possession game. I'm not sure whether this is to do with him being played out of position on the flank or by design (although I don't know why it would be) but currently he's both isolated on the right wing and wasteful when he does get the ball. That needs to change if he's to retain his starting spot.

A Certain Striker

Figure 3: Chelsea radial passing maps at Manchester United, 9/18/11. Powered by Tableau.

Let's talk about Fernando Torres. He'll be remembered for that awful miss after rounding David de Gea in the second half, but he put in what was probably his strongest shift in a Chelsea shirt, scoring a goal, playing a pass that only failed to be an assist on a technicality (blame Ramires!) and generally playing incisive football throughout the match.

Torres' problems in a Chelsea jersey have been well documented. The most obvious issue the striker has is a complete lack of decisiveness. I don't want to speculate as to his mental state, but when Torres is going bad, he dwells on the ball for too long and allows himself to be crowded out rather than take a shot or play a pass. That's obviously not an ideal way for a striker to behave.

Here, we saw none of that. There was never any dawdling on the ball. Torres was (presumably) identifying what he wanted to do and getting it done as quickly as possible rather than waiting for something to happen to him. While the three most memorable moments of the match, as far as he's concerned, were probably the pass to Ramires, the goal and the rather epic miss late on, I don't think that any of them are as instructive as two other incidents - the attempted bicycle kick from a Danny Sturridge cross in the first half and the weaving run through the United defence that nearly resulted in his second goal.

Those two moments speak to a Torres Liverpool fans know very well and that Chelsea ones don't (disregarding the matches he played against us, that is). Call the bicycle kick reflexive, call it confidence, call it whatever - it still required a decision to be taken and implemented instantly, leaving no room for self doubt. The dribble was similarly impressive, taking two defenders out of the game and ending with a vicious shot de Gea barely beat away. Have we ever seen Torres take a player out like that, let alone two? I'm going with no.

So, Torres was extraordinarily good, despite the miss to end all misses. That's not really useful, though. Why was he good?

I can name, off the top of my head, four Torres performances that stand out as 'good': The away match in Copenhagen, the cameo against West Ham United in which he notched his first Chelsea goal, the Stoke City draw (although this is questionable, since everyone around him was poor) and the United game. Throwing out Stoke, where Torres got a grand total of zero good chances, the common thread in all of this is the presence of Nicolas Anelka, who has now provided both of the Spaniard's assists in a blue shirt.

Why does the Torres-Anelka pairing seem to work so well? Let's let Anelka tell us:

[The assist came from] a good move from Fernando, I saw him and tried to put him in the space for him to score and it worked, it was good. It was a clever pass but he made the good move, I just had to adjust my power for the pass and everything came perfectly. These kind of runs I do when I am a striker so I know what Fernando wants and how he wants to score goals because I am almost the same. It makes it easier to give him the right pass.

-Nicolas Anelka. Source: ChelseaFC.com.

With Daniel Sturridge's struggles laid out earlier, it's probably time to run with a Mata-Torres-Anelka forward three, at least for league play. Those three plus Raul Meireles appear to have a very good understanding, and Chelsea's season really hinges on getting their £50M man back onto top form.

Hardly Dominance

Figure 4: Manchester United vs. Chelsea team/individual passing, 9/18/2011. Powered by Tableau.

Chelsea's previous four opponents have had nothing like a possession advantage against the Blues - Chelsea had outpassed Stoke, West Bromwich Albion, Norwich City and Sunderland by a combined 1104 attempts, which is rather a lot for four matches. Against Manchester United, there was never going to be a clear-cut advantage in terms of possession, and the hosts unsurprisingly had the better of things for the vast majority of the match.

Chelsea had season-low passs attempted and season-high conceded, hardly a surprise considering where they were and who they were playing against. A comparison between the same fixture last year, while probably not particularly useful, is still interesting - in the 2010/11 season, Chelsea attempted 463 passes (80 percent completion) at Old Trafford to United's 408 (73 percent), while this year the equivalent numbers were 447 (83 percent) and 575 (83 percent).

Passes don't tell the whole story, of course, but Carlo Ancelotti fielded a far more defensively robust midfield against United last season that Villas-Boas attempted this season, and they were aggressive in pressing their hosts, vastly reducing their passing tally. This time around, Chelsea refused to press the midfielders until they crossed the halfway line, leading to Anderson and Darren Fletcher having it relatively easy in terms of settling the ball when possession was gained and giving them plenty of time to find their wingers.

The pressing thing is interesting, because many are pointing to the midfield press as a major weapon in shutting down teams, and are baffled by its absence. While it is true that one can put immense pressure on the ball holder with a very aggressive press, it's also an inherently dangerous technique. Andre Villas-Boas actually discussed very early on when he described his tactical philosophy - in order to break a defence, you have to lure them to you with the ball. Once broken, they're far more easily circumvented, either with good one-on-one play or by exploiting the holes that appear in the shape.

Given the evidence from Sunday's match, it would appear that Chelsea made an error in not applying more pressure to Fletcher and Anderson when they were in possession - this made the sweeping pass to the flanks a more viable option for United, and that's where they hurt us. However, pressing them in the middle would have made things very dangerous should either player have circumvented the midfielder attacking them, because the Blues would have been left with a player stranded up the pitch while one of Anderson and Fletcher, with support from Wayne Rooney, raced forwards. That's not a particularly palatable option either, so in the end it'd hard to blame Chelsea for playing like they did.

And In Defence?

Apart from finishing, what went wrong for Chelsea? The midfield was good enough, the forward movement was highly encouraging and the team probably created enough chances to win the average match at Old Trafford. Javier Hernandez was marked out of the game by Branislav Ivanovic and John Terry, and despite going up against Raul Meireles, Wayne Rooney wasn't any more dangerous than his usual devastating self, which is about all you can hope for when up against Rooney when he's in the middle of one of his hot streaks.

The major problems came on the wings. There were three players in particular that Chelsea had real problems with - Ashley Young, Patrice Evra and Nani. The Young-Evra axis was dangerous because Sturridge did very little defensive work and wasn't a major threat in the attacking third, allowing United's left back to team up with Young to cause Jose Bosingwa real problems. The Portuguese fullback was by no means spectacular, but he did about as well as he could in a tricky situation.

On the other flank, Ashley Cole was absolutely dire against Nani, whose modus operandi was to pick up the ball on the right, beat a defender, and drive infield. With Juan Mata unable to provide much assistance on the defensive side of things (although he did prevent Chris Smalling going forward), Andre Villas-Boas was relying on Cole having a good day to stop Nani's runs. He wasn't, and Chelsea were badly, badly hurt by it. Cole had been showing signs of life as of late, but they certainly weren't there on Sunday, and the Blues paid the price.

Another major issue the defence did a poor job with was a simple action - ball recovery. Chelsea are increasingly having difficulty tackling opponents cleanly and are also on occasion immensely sloppy when they do recover possession. Goals number one and three were the result of an inability to transition from defence to attack effectively, with Bosingwa being unable to play the ball out in the leadup to the free kick that ended up with Smalling scoring, and number three being rather more direct when John Terry's botched clearance bounced off Nani to land at the feet of Rooney.

Conducting that transition is a hugely underapprectiated part of a defender's job, and failure to do so means having to soak up more shots and spend more time on the back foot. Without looking at any statistics, one would suspect that Chelsea's best player in this regard is one David Luiz, whose skill on the ball compared to the rest of the defenders on the squad makes him look like Lionel Messi. Granted, he makes his share of catastrophic errors, but with the Blues needing less force and more finesse at the back, it's not crazy to suggest that he should have started here.

Overall

At the end of the day, I strongly suspect claims of Chelsea superiority have been vastly overblown. The team performed well enough on the attack, but the defending was suspect throughout and you'd have to believe that the inclusion of Danny Sturridge and Branislav Ivanovic (or possibly Jose Bosingwa) over Nicolas Anelka and David Luiz were mistakes. At best, Chelsea 'deserved' a draw.

That said, very few teams could travel to Old Trafford and play well enough to even have the conversation, and despite the scoreline the Blues were hardly blown off the pitch. On top of that, Fernando Torres finally began playing like he should be and we've learned that Raul Meireles might just about be able to hold even against good teams, as long as you don't care about him being able to attack, which is... something, I guess. More than anything else, though, this game gave us an idea as to the strengths and weaknesses of the team, as well as giving us some idea of what Chelsea's best XI might look like. Since you're about to ask:

Chelsea (4-3-3): Petr Cech; Ashley Cole, John Terry, David Luiz, Jose Bosingwa; John Obi Mikel, Raul Meireles, Ramires; Juan Mata, Fernando Torres, Nicolas Anelka.

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I can't think of anything I'd disagree with.

It was somehow more and less disappointing that the difference in both sides’ finishing was pretty small. Of the big chances, they were all on the fine line between a goal and a miss. It was refreshing, since most of our losses involve us shooting well over, well wide, or just letting chances fizzle.

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by Kevin Kostka on Sep 21, 2011 9:38 AM BST reply actions  

Luiz!!

I agree with Graham (and learned a lot in reading it). The problems with Sturridge were especially clear, as he offered little in link play. Anelka, when sharp, plays a beautiful passing game, and I agree that he might be the better starter for getting Torres the service he needs. It’s probably too early, but I wonder, Graham, what you think is a better position for Mata: right wing or trequerista. Obviously depends on opponents and formation, but…

In defence, I completely agree that Luiz needs to be our regular central defender, for the reasons Graham points out. The transition to offence is essential, and he is a master at it. Now we know why AVB was trying to bring Perreira in from Porto! He would have been a perfect Nani-stopper, slowing the opponent down in the middle, breaking up play, and moving the ball forward. I’m happy with Meireles and think he’s a great holding midfielder, with great threat on the attack. Brilliant post, as usual.

by MikeyF on Sep 21, 2011 11:36 AM BST reply actions  

Cole and Meireles

Personally, I think Cole’s “bad” game has been a little overblown as well. He was going up against one of the best (if not the best) dribblers in the EPL and had 0 help from anyone else with him. I didn’t think Nani dominated him by any means and that no player on Chelsea could have defended him any better.

As for Meireles, I don’t like him as a holding mid still. Not sure I agree that he can hold against good teams. He defensive positioning was suspect (see Nani goal) and tackling wasn’t much better. I’d like to see him a little further up the pitch where I don’t have to be worried about his defensive capabilities as much and can be excited about his passing ability.

by AmericanChelseaFans on Sep 21, 2011 12:14 PM BST reply actions  

The reason for the Nani goal was because Meireles had a specific role,

don’t let Rooney get the ball in dangerous areas! If you watch the replay of Nani’s goal, as Nani approaches Meireles, Meireles steps into the position between Nani and Rooney to cut out the pass, however this was a lose lose situation as it turned out for Meireles as he either approaches Nani and allows Rooney the ball in a dangerous situation or he looks to cut off the pass (which never happened) and allowed Nani to have the shot!

by Toosy_13 on Sep 21, 2011 12:32 PM BST up reply actions  

I understand he had a role

but when you are in your defensive third and there is an elite player bearing down on goal you step and deny him the space to run through to goal. Even though Meireles was basically assigned to Rooney, the defense would have adapted to pick up Rooney had Meireles forced a pass to him instead of allowing him to shoot. You simply can’t let him run straight on goal like that. (However, Terry also should have stepped on Nani so I’m not saying it is completely Meireles’ fault by any means)

by AmericanChelseaFans on Sep 21, 2011 12:41 PM BST up reply actions  

I think you have to remember that Nani's shot was...

…probably hit and hope at best. It’s not really something he’s known for, though I don’t think anyone hits those regularly. Even if he planned to do that, it was clearly the lower-percentage option. I think 9 times out of 10, Rooney with the ball there is more dangerous than Nani with the ball there. Look at our long shots this year, most of them have been off target. Sure, our defence should have done better, and prevented the shot in the first place, but it was still a moment of either great skill or great luck for Nani. Really the first and third goals were much worse defensively. It was offside, but you don’t step off an attacker like that at a free kick. The third was pretty much a lesson in how defend poorly.

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by Kevin Kostka on Sep 21, 2011 1:00 PM BST up reply actions  

True it was not high percentage

but a lot of it is momentum. Nani was running right at our goal while Rooney was basically standing still. Best case for Man U, Rooney would have received a square pass from Nani and then create his own momentum going forward. I feel much better about stopping a player standing still than a player running at speed, even if that player standing still is Rooney.

Definitely agree with your other points though. Can’t hope for the best and just give up marking your players on set-pieces and definitely can’t get a CB get into your box with possession. I feel a little bad for Terry becaue it was just straight bad luck that it deflected perfectly off Nani to Rooney, but the point is the ball shouldn’t have gotten there in the first place.

by AmericanChelseaFans on Sep 21, 2011 1:17 PM BST up reply actions  

Id personally like to see the team play;

                            Torres
Anelka—————Mata——————-Sturridge
-————Meireles—Ramires———————
Cole———-Terry——-Luiz————-Bosingwa
-———————-Cech—————————————-

by Toosy_13 on Sep 21, 2011 12:35 PM BST reply actions  

I would agree with that

against pretty much any team not from Manchester. I believe we need Mikel in the midfield to counter the teams that like to build up through center attacking mids or forwards that drop into that space.

Other than those teams though, 4-2-3-1 looked great with almost every player (except maybe Sturridge) looking right at home

by AmericanChelseaFans on Sep 21, 2011 12:43 PM BST up reply actions  

Mikel's role

I’m not sure how I feel about Mikel’s role on the team with AVB’s tactics. AVB obviously wants more attacking and quicker movement of the ball, which are 2 things Mikel does not excel at. He is by far the best defensive midfielder we have on the team and as stated earlier I believe he is essential against teams that utilize that center midfield space between our midfield and defense to build attacks, but we only need that against a select few teams. Generally speaking, he only seems to slow down our game and ball movement which is not something AVB wants. Seems like AVB is moving more and more towards the double pivot midfield to allow more players to go forward. The question is: Is Mikel’s style of play indicative of who he is as a player or how managers instruct him to play? As in, can he play a double pivot role and actually attack/move the ball or is it just in his blood to hold up play…

by AmericanChelseaFans on Sep 21, 2011 12:47 PM BST reply actions  

The interesting thing about Mikel

Is that he frees up the fullbacks to attack. He might not be a great link for Chelsea in the midfield, but he’s a decent enough central defensive player, but without him we look far less fluid in the wings because Cole and Bossy can’t push up so high.

by Graham MacAree on Sep 21, 2011 3:54 PM BST up reply actions  

also when you play exceptional wingers with a lot of pace it pins the fullbacks back.

by Matthew Kent on Sep 21, 2011 4:37 PM BST up reply actions  

Good point

for a 4-3-3 formation for sure. I was being a little narrow-minded thinking only of what he brings when he is on the ball and not as much off the ball (which is arguably more important in soccer haha). I guess it just seems like his thought process is too slow when he is on the ball. I’m fine with everything he does, it’s just that sometimes I feel like he sees the pass, then waits, then has to spin around in a circle shielding, then plays the pass he saw before. As one who likes to let the ball do the work more, sometimes it gets to me.

I know you feel the 4-3-3 is the strongest formation at the moment, but IF AVB changes to 4-2-3-1 like he has on occasion do you see a place for Mikel? With the 4-2-3-1 we don’t rely on our wings as much so he wouldn’t need to sit deep to cover for them. Could he perform well enough as a double pivot to start, in your opinion?

by AmericanChelseaFans on Sep 21, 2011 5:09 PM BST up reply actions  

Mikel

he reminds me of a rich mans Popa Bouba Diop

by Matthew Kent on Sep 21, 2011 4:50 PM BST up reply actions  

before this match started i was hoping AVB starts anelka in place of sturridge. danny is still too inexperienced for teams like man u. and luiz as CB and ivanovic as RB and bosingwa on the bench.
and i too agree that meireles should be used as an attacking midfielder rather than a defensive one!

by Gautam Cfc on Sep 21, 2011 3:12 PM BST reply actions  

John Terry

Graham would you consider doing a piece on JT? For me, he’s been terrible this season-I think he’s really really struggling to adjust to the high line AVB wants to play, since he’s so slow. On the first goal, I think part of the blame can be assigned to him-when one is relying on the linesman to make a decision, it’s a good idea to make offsides look as obvious as possible, and Terry was the deepest Chelsea player.

Maybe I’m just reading too much into it, but that he’s struggled this season seems undeniable to me.

by bsally on Sep 21, 2011 4:51 PM BST reply actions  

I could write a long piece on JT

However, there are a few reasons why I haven’t, yet – unlike with forward players we have a really hard time analysing what it is a defender actually does in terms of stats. Any JT article I wrote would have to either involve me developing new techniques for looking at centre backs statistically (not out of the question) or come entirely from the land of my opinion, which may not be that worthwhile.

I just don’t feel like I have the support to argue it!

by Graham MacAree on Sep 21, 2011 5:00 PM BST up reply actions  

Fair enough

But do you think I’m crazy to suggest that our defensive struggles are largely attributable to his struggle to adjust to the high line?

by bsally on Sep 21, 2011 5:06 PM BST up reply actions  

I think sometimes

we get blown up on the counter attack and everyone is at 6’s and 7’s

by Matthew Kent on Sep 21, 2011 5:17 PM BST up reply actions  

almost all the goals we have allowed

have come from the ball being given away, everyone pushed up on corners, people botching corners like Ramires…..and poor JT is running around like a chicken with his head cut off….we havent really given up conventional goals so we have to ease up on JT.

by Matthew Kent on Sep 21, 2011 5:24 PM BST up reply actions  

Ivanovic Isn't a speed demon either

We have had them paired together in the back 3/5 EPL games this year. I feel that if we determine JT is struggling, we have to place the blame on Ivanovic as well.

As Graham said, it is very hard to judge defensive players. Especially CBs because so much of it is teamwork with your fellow CB. Working together is a unit outweighs all else in my opinion, so it is very difficult to judge which of the pair isn’t quite performing

by AmericanChelseaFans on Sep 21, 2011 5:22 PM BST up reply actions  

Defensive statistics

It’s certainly tough without a good way to quantify positioning and other intangibles like marking, etc.

BUT…Terry’s case is certainly not helped by (compared to our other defenders, PL only)
- Most fouls commited of any central defender
- Winning only a third of clearing headers (6-of-18) – worst of any central defender
- Winning only 60% of his tackles. That’s worse than Cole or Bosingwa, although slightly better than Alex (57%).
- Less than 2 interceptions/game. Only Bosingwa has less.

He does lead the team in blocks (classic JT, really) and he’s pretty good at drawing fouls.

by DPeezy on Sep 21, 2011 5:16 PM BST up reply actions  

So the tackles thing

I’ve been thinking about this, and tackles aren’t a binary outcome, because of fouls.

A) You win the ball
B) You foul the player
C) You let the player get past

A is more desirable than B which is sometimes but not always more desirable than C. I’m not sure how to properly weight that up.

by Graham MacAree on Sep 21, 2011 5:20 PM BST up reply actions  

I'm not sure it can be

Unless you actually review the game tape, look at each individual scenario and determine how good the defender’s actions were (at which point you’re entering into Chelsea backroom/coaching staff job responsibilities…without the pay to go along with it). So you kind of have to generalize & assume with the limited amount of “hard” statistics available.

My rudimentary effort for now is to take tackles won, add in successful clearances (and other “positive” defending actions like interceptions and blocks) and subtract out the fouls committed (generally “negative” defending actions, assuming defenders commit the vast majority of their fouls in their own half). I would’ve also subtracted tackles lost, but this punishes defenders (who were at least in a position to make the tackle) over attackers (who will have far less attempts).

Clearly there is at least some sort of a weighting that needs to be added, but I’m not feeling up to figuring that out yet…

by DPeezy on Sep 21, 2011 5:37 PM BST up reply actions  

I'll do the job

I’m stuck in the house 24/7 for the next two months….find me some quality game tape and Ill do it.

by Matthew Kent on Sep 21, 2011 5:44 PM BST up reply actions  

The thing with fouls

Is that they don’t necessarily happen because the defender in question has made a mistake. If, for example, Ivanovic misses a tackle leaving an attacker to run free, then JT has to get across to cover. It’s entirely possible that his (correct) positioning on the other side of the pitch means that he doesn’t have time to reach the player and make a proper tackle, but is able to get close enough to bring the player down and prevent him from getting a shot away.

Obviously you can’t allow for that with the stats you have, but it may be reason to give the fouls a lower weighting if you ever get around to doing it

by deg0ey on Sep 21, 2011 8:46 PM BST up reply actions  

I agree

Some things need to be weighted more than others. Hope to figure that out as we go along…

by DPeezy on Sep 21, 2011 10:57 PM BST up reply actions  

Mata-Torres-Anelka

I do agree with this front 3 as our current strongest, especially when Anelka is firing on all cylinders and is able to roam/drop deep at opportune times. Ostensibly, all 3 of those occupied the same central space, with lots of free movement in all directions. That was nice.

I’m somewhat curious to see a rumored Lukaku-Drogba partnership in tonight’s game.

by DPeezy on Sep 21, 2011 5:04 PM BST reply actions  

Starting formation tonight

will be…? I know I was thinking the exact same as Graham with Lamps, Romeu, and McEachran in the middle of a 3 man midfield (either in 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 with McEachran as attacking). But that was with the impression that Drogba was going to come off the bench to relieve Lukaku. If they both start, then what? Drogba replaces Lampard and we play a standard 4-4-2?

by AmericanChelseaFans on Sep 21, 2011 5:15 PM BST up reply actions  

Yeah, 4-4-2 would be my guess

Higher emphasis placed on getting players minutes rather than fitting into a formation. Maybe a narrow diamond-ish lineup, with a midfield of Mikel – Romeu, McEachran – Lampard. Not sure how (well) that would work…

Just pure speculation though.

by DPeezy on Sep 21, 2011 5:21 PM BST up reply actions  

4-4-2 standard

was my guess, with Romeu, Mceachran in the middle and Malouda and Kalou outside. Figure they have to get some PT in this game…

by AmericanChelseaFans on Sep 21, 2011 5:24 PM BST up reply actions  

I hope AVB has Drogba in line

I dont wanna see anymore of the FA cup against Everton foolishness.

by Matthew Kent on Sep 21, 2011 5:22 PM BST reply actions  

Drogba

he was also crying because Torres started in the CL game, and then he faked an injury around the 15th minute and hobbled around trying to get taken off… then when he found out he wasnt getting taken off he just played 30% the rest of the game. disgraceful, i still havent forgave him.

by Matthew Kent on Sep 21, 2011 5:26 PM BST up reply actions  

The thing with Mikel

Any accusation levelled at Mikel over slowing the game down or using too much time to pick a pass can also be attributed to Anelka. If you pass the ball to Anelka, the first thing he almost always does is slows down play. He then looks around for options before typically trying (and succeeding) to beat a random midfielder or defender before attempting some complicated pass that is misunderstood by Drogba and Kalouda. At least, Mata, Torres, Meireles and Sturridge are all more likely to “get” it and receive the pass. However, Mikel can also attempt the exact same kind of passes from much further away.

As a Nigerian, I’ve watched an awful lot of Mikel over the years in our national teams and can safely say that no one in the Chelsea squad apart from perhaps Mata can pass better than him. The problem is confidence. In the Nigerian Super Eagles, Mikel is expected to attempt a lot of creative passes and does whereas in Chelsea he does not because of fear that he’ll get the blame if something goes wrong is true, if you look at the way a lot of fans and the media view him.

If AVB can build Mikel’s confidence and allow him the freedom to make long passes then he can be a real danger as a kind of advanced Anchor man/ deep-lying playmaker hybrid. Or not.

The Nigerian Perspective!

by Iced O on Sep 21, 2011 5:28 PM BST reply actions  

I'm in two minds over Mikel

I think he’s a good passer, to a certain extent, but I do think that he takes far too long to release the ball. Whether that’s a techincal problem (loose control) or a mental issue (slow decision making) I obviously have no idea. I would really enjoy it if Mikel starting moving things along faster and unleashing himself a little more, because there’s a complete player in there waiting to get out. It just hasn’t, for club or country – a blending of his roles with Nigeria and CHelsea seems like it’d be for the best.

by Graham MacAree on Sep 21, 2011 5:31 PM BST up reply actions  

A lot of Nigerians

hate Chelsea because they believe the club and especially Mourinho ruined Mikel. Mikel was supposed to be the next coming of Jay Jay Okocha but was turned into an inferior Makalele. Mikel can move the ball around very quickly and has a good eye for excellent complicated passes. However, this aspect of his game seems to have completely died while at Chelsea. I believe the problem is confidence. Mikel needs to be encouraged by AVB to attempt these passes and be made to understand that if they don’t work out well he won’t be blamed. If given the necessary freedom Mikel will come good and maybe score a few goals…

The Nigerian Perspective!

by Iced O on Sep 21, 2011 5:39 PM BST up reply actions  

Which reminds me

Mikel is an excellent dead ball specialist from corners and free kicks. At least, he used to be. I wonder if he can still take them…

The Nigerian Perspective!

by Iced O on Sep 21, 2011 5:41 PM BST up reply actions  

I noticed he played CAM for Nigeria

never actually seen him play the role a whole 90 mins, but ive seen some nice you tube highlights

by Matthew Kent on Sep 21, 2011 5:42 PM BST up reply actions  

He ALWAYS plays central midfield for Nigeria

Which I typically find is a problem I have with whoever happens to be managing the National team. Nigerians refuse to view Mikel as a defensive midfielder and believe he should be an attacking midfielder. I think Mikel is better utilised as a deep-lying playmaker like Pirlo for our National team than an attacked minded CAM since he has lost almost all his pace and dribbling skills.

The Nigerian Perspective!

by Iced O on Sep 21, 2011 5:52 PM BST up reply actions  

Agree with Graham here

I think he has a good eye for the pass, it just doesn’t happen quick enough. You can see his head turn and make eye contact like he knows exactly where he wants to pass it. Then something, who knows what, happens and it takes another second or two for that thought to make it to his muscles. Half the time a defender has closed him down by then and he has to adjust and look for another pass.

Like I said, I can’t decide if it is just part of him (mental block, low confidence, whatever) or if he was just coached to slow it down for so long that it is natural now. Either way, I think he has the skills to be very important but right now his offensive tactics (not defensive, he’s pretty solid there) hurt the team at times.

by AmericanChelseaFans on Sep 21, 2011 6:15 PM BST up reply actions  

There should be an edit button

In the second paragraph what I meant to write was “… something goes wrong, which is true, if you look …”

The Nigerian Perspective!

by Iced O on Sep 21, 2011 5:32 PM BST up reply actions  

I would agree with you accusation over Anelka if this was still last season

But he’s (generally) been a lot better about his speed of play and passing this season. He’s cut down on his head-down, slow-ass, aimless dribbling, too. He’s in good form right now, so he should be given more minutes.

Full disclaimer: I do have rosie-colored glasses when it comes to Nico.

by DPeezy on Sep 21, 2011 5:42 PM BST up reply actions  

I dunno

I think United was the first match in which he was anything like incisive. He was doing a lot of the faffy crap against West Brom, Sunderland etc

by Graham MacAree on Sep 21, 2011 5:44 PM BST up reply actions  

He's better than last season in that regard

for sure, but still has some work to do. I feel the same way about Kalouda though. He takes 5 years to play a ball and by then the easy pass is no longer there. At least when Anelka does it he maintains the ball most of the time (seriously, his ball control in tight spaces is ridiculous), whereas Kalouda loses the ball when farting around with it.

by AmericanChelseaFans on Sep 21, 2011 6:11 PM BST up reply actions  

Usually I don't care about stats such as goal attempts as they are largely misleading but

I think we had better chances both in quantity AND quality that game. Come on, two empty net shots (one played back at the GK for some reason and the other missed wide…for some reason). TWO. Not to mention two other ridiculous chances for Torres (a volley sitter and a him-vs-theGK situation).

"Kareem — verb: to be so horrible in coverage that the camera man is forced to zoom out in order to find the defender responsible for whoever just waltzed into the end zone." -Nashmeister

by RocketsAstros on Sep 21, 2011 5:57 PM BST reply actions  

United fan here, trespassing I guess

Very deep analysis, good read

I agree with your summary at the end. You did quite well attackingly, and maybe if Ramires could finish,and Torres puts away that sitter, you might have just sneaked something.
I think Lampard has to be in your starting eleven too. The bloke will still get you upwards of ten goals in the league (and this is coming from one of his harsher critics) Merelies should not be deployed as a holding mid though. Hasn’t got the defensive instinct IMO

Quikc question. Upon reading your thought on Cole, I get the feeling you have not been happy with his perfomances as of late. Is this correct or am I getting the wrong end of a stick here?

by Sweet science on Sep 22, 2011 10:21 AM BST reply actions  

Well I don’t watch Chelsea nearly enough so your opinion will be more accurate than mine. A number of reasons I guess. Maybe the change in tactics from Chelsea? Old age starting to take another victim? Broken heart after the brake down of his marraige?

by Sweet science on Sep 22, 2011 9:26 PM BST up reply actions  

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