Chelsea 2-0 Bayer Leverkusen, 2011 UEFA Champions League: Blues Leave Things Late In 2-0 Win
It wasn't perfect, but it was better than what came before. Chelsea got their 2011 Champions League campaign off to a perfect start thanks to 2-0 win at Stamford Bridge against Michael Ballack's Bayer Leverkusen. Despite what's now four wins on the trot, Chelsea hadn't been playing particularly well through the opening month of the season, so the match against Germany's runners-up would provide them with an interesting test. Could the Blues step up their game to handle Leverkusen, or would their decent run be exposed as a fraud?
Happily for Chelsea, it would turn out to be the former, although their German guests would prove difficult to handle for much of the match. Andre Villas-Boas opted to rest both John Terry and Frank Lampard for the match, and with Ramires suspended the midfield looked very strange indeed - John Obi Mikel regained his starting position with Florent Malouda and Raul Meireles alongside him, a personnel arrangement which had it been suggested a month ago would have conjured to mind visions of some sort of football apocalypse.
Less odd was the return to action of the only centre half in the Premier League who can lay claim to being his team's prime central creator. David Luiz returned to action for the first time since the debacle at Old Trafford last season, much to the joy of every Chelsea fan who doesn't hate fun. Fellow January acquisition Fernando Torres was also reinstated to the lineup, with rather more trepidation from onlookers. Torres was flanked - finally - by Juan Mata and Daniel Sturridge, whom it is hoped will serve to unlock the £50M striker's goalscoring potential.
For the first few minutes of the match, it seemed like everything was going to plan. Chances were flying in left and right, and Torres was at the centre of a passing bombardment. A hooked volley flew just wide of Bernd Leno's right hand post and a backheeled effort was ruled out for offside as Meireles, fractionally off, interfered with play. Torres was looking sharp and confident, and despite an early scare in which Leverkusen too had a goal disallowed and some questions about the back line's ability to fend off an intermittently-threatening attack, the team did as well.
Of course, a quick start can only last so long, and it was Torres who signalled the end of the fun in the 10th minute. Mata, impressive all evening, managed to work the ball to the striker via deflection, but instead of smashing the ball home from close range, Torres opted to take a couple of touches before an incoming tackle forced him into a weak shot that Leno saved easily.
After that, the first half turned into a scrappy, free-kick filled affair. Chelsea were still the better side, with Daniel Sturridge looking the most likely to score, but the number of stoppages rather ruined any fluidity the Blues were trying to impose upon the match. Sturridge was denied a couple of times by 19-year-old Leno, who was fantastic on the night, and the match entered the break with the hosts frustrated that they'd yet to break the deadlock.
That doesn't mean there weren't encouraging signs, of course - Chelsea looked quicker and sharper than they did at any point during the Sunderland match, and it was clear that Mata and Sturridge in particular are deserved starters on the wings. Meireles and Mikel were also excellent in the middle of the pitch, and even though Malouda didn't manage to do much in in the first 45 minutes, he was hardly bad out there.
The second half did not open well for the good guys, with the defence going through a really poor spell. Fortunately, Leverkusen failed to take advantage of Chelsea's inability to get across the halfway line without giving the ball away, despite an excellent chance for old friend Michael Ballack, who shot straight at Cech's legs when put clean through. At the other end of the pitch, Leno saved brilliantly when a rare Chelsea attack looked like a threat to result in a goal, denying Sturridge once again as the England under-21 striker met a teasing cross with a volley from four yards away.
Andre Villas-Boas had had enough of the 4-3-3, pulling off Meireles and Sturridgeand replacing them with Nicolas Anelka and Frank Lampard, shifting his personnel into s 4-4-2 diamond with Mata as the tip. As soon as they shifted to the diamond, Chelsea were unstoppable.
David Luiz was the man to break the deadlock, surging through the Leverkusen defence before laying a pass to Malouda out wide. Malouda pinged in a first-time pass to Torres, who layed the ball off for the Brazilian centre half, who hadn't stopped running. The 23-year-old then hit a finish of which any striker would be proud, curling the ball around a despairing dive by Leno and just inside the far post.
Chelsea were rampant, and Mata forced two saves from Leno in quick succession immediately after the goal. Anelka too should have found the scoresheet after excellent work by Malouda only for his header to be called back for offside - nobody's quite sure who the supposedly offside player was, though. A second goal was necessary to calm Chelsea nerves a little as Leverkusen still looked to hit the Blues with a sucker punch, and it was Fernando Torres who inspired it, albeit very late on.
Torres, who'd combined moments of brilliance with those of utter farce throughout the match, opted for one of the latter when he hopped over a tackle to burst clean through on the left. He could have opted for a shot from a tight angle - with his goal drought, I don't think anyone would have blamed him - but instead cute Leno out of the picture with a pullback for Mata, who converted one of the easiest goals he'll ever score to make it 2-0 in the 92nd minute and put the game well and truly out of reach.
With Valencia drawing 0-0 against Belgium in Genk, Chelsea go two points clear at the top of Group E with the win. A trip to the Mestalla is to follow, and if Chelsea can get a win in Spain they'll be in total command of the group. This was a good win, and there was a stretch in the second half when the Blues played their best football of the season. The fact that this coincides with the return of one shaggy-haired defensive messiah... well, you can draw your own conclusions.
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Oh man
I had to vote for Torres for Man of the Match.. less than 24 hours after I wrote a complete hate piece on him. But I’m honestly very happy that he played so well today. A lot of players in a slump like Torres has been in would have gotten selfish in those assist situations. Torres made the smart choices today. Looks like the Mata-Torres-Sturridge trio could actually be very good.
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by justinmayhugh on Sep 14, 2011 3:03 AM BST reply actions 1 recs
I'm a big give credit when it's due kind of guy, and Torres deserves credit today.
Mata is looking like the real deal. I love the way he plays. He is definitely a creative passer, and very smart. Impressed with Sturridge as well. Sometimes I feel like he over dribbles, but I don’t see that being a big deal. Miereles was once again very good. Looks like we may have gotten a steal from Liverpool.
Luiz was back to being David Luiz. He’s make a couple of great plays, and then do something foolish. I’m not to worried about it though. He’ll get it all figured out. His goal was very good, and I love the way that he wants to push play on the offensive end.
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by justinmayhugh on Sep 14, 2011 3:10 AM BST up reply actions
That's what I was trying to say below.
Every player had good moments, but they all had foolish moments.
by Kevin Kostka on Sep 14, 2011 3:15 AM BST up reply actions
Torres deserves SOME credit
But I don’t think man of the match credit. Sure he had 2 assists, but one assist (to Luiz) was as easy of an assist as you’ll get (similar to Mata’s goal). He made a great decision with the assist to Mata, no denying that. Good play and great layoff, that will win him some respect in the locker room, which I think he needs honestly. But other than those, he didn’t do too much. Sure, he had great positioning, movement, and energy (for the most part), but what did he do when he received the ball? His touch, shots, and general passing are still miles away from where he was when he was considered “world class”. Everything started with Mata today, he has to be the MoTM, in my opinion.
by AmericanChelseaFans on Sep 14, 2011 3:55 AM BST up reply actions
I agree with almost everything
Torres was good but not MOTM good. I’d give it to Luiz, his wonderful run and goal were what made the difference.
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by RocketsAstros on Sep 14, 2011 4:11 PM BST up reply actions
I voted "Other" because I didn't think we really had one.
This was an odd game to watch, since we didn’t have anybody really standing out, positively or negatively. It seemed like every player had both good moments and bouts of intermittent ineptitude in about the same amount. I wasn’t sure what substitutions we were going to make to get a goal, since nobody was really more worthy than anyone else of a continued place on the pitch.
Apart from that, I liked the Mata-Torres-Sturridge set-up, and I hope AVB has the bottle to stick with it for a while, to see if consistent service will bring Torres back. I’m weirdly both optimistic and pessimistic about Sunday. It just seems like one of those games where Torres will either be abysmal or score the winner. Obviously, I hope it’s the latter. Nothing would be more satisfying than shutting up those United supporters who take the piss about Torres.
Pretty much my feelings too
I also voted for ‘Other’, but almost voted for Cech on the basis that he didn’t really get anything wrong, but he didn’t stand out either so I don’t see how anyone can get the award.
Defense
Brand new to the site, have been to a lot of chelsea fan sites, this is the best one. We have given up some shaky, unnecessary goals this year. We should have conceded 3 times against tonight if it wasn’t for a combination of poor finishing/Cech saves. I cant quite put my finger on it, don’t want to blame anyone yet but it worries me for this weekend. My two cents on our slow attack is the lack of Essien, he had the lovely knack for taking the ball in the defensive third and making those blistering runs forward with the ball and without the ball giving us numbers advantages. It seems now we don’t have anyone to surge forward making buildup slow allowing 9 or 10 defenders to get back and cut down on space we need to create. Also 2 years ago frank used to have the pace to get by defenders with those subtle cuts he would make to give him space to shoot, now hes either getting tackled or another defender is stepping up into the space because hes lost that little bit of pace.
I agree w/ the Essien comment...
but Ramires also has that ability to surge through the middle into the final third and beyond. I hope that under AVB, he just does it a little more often. It was also be interesting to see if Meireles makes those runs (providing he isn’t the holding mid) as we get to see more of him. Anyone know if Raul made those midfield charges with any regularity at Liverpool? (I try to watch as little of pool as I can)
by Joe DelGreco on Sep 14, 2011 3:30 AM BST up reply actions
I really do not want Meireles as our holding mid.
In a double pivot it would be ok, but him as a single holding mid would not be good for us imo. From what I have seen he is a very bad tackler, granted I haven’t seen too much of him but that is the impression I get.
by Noleforever9399 on Sep 14, 2011 3:47 AM BST up reply actions
i don't think we will have a set midfield trio
it will change week to week, based on the opposition. i think our best bet against united will be to include meireles and ramires. i don’t know if lamps will make it. we need three high-energy guys in there who can win the ball and hold possession.
The only difference
Essien’s finishing is light years beyond Ramires, and Ramires is my favorite player.
Essien pre knee injury
was truly a joy to watch. He was terrific.
by Noleforever9399 on Sep 14, 2011 3:48 AM BST up reply actions
And it makes the succession of knee injuries that much worse.
I just hope by some miracle the Essien who scored THAT goal against Arsenal can come back. Each catastrophic knee injury makes it seem less likely : (
by Kevin Kostka on Sep 14, 2011 3:54 AM BST up reply actions
I know it is terrible :(
I am definitely rooting for him to defy the odds and make it back!!! If he could somehow come back as the Michael Essien that we know then I don’t really think our midfield will be that much of a problem anymore. But unfortunately that’s a big long shot.
by Noleforever9399 on Sep 14, 2011 3:59 AM BST up reply actions
I figured that was what you were talking about!!
I really really miss Essien, it’s hard not to root for someone who works as hard as he does and he is pure class. One of my favorite players of all-time. Hopefully he isn’e done either!!!
by Noleforever9399 on Sep 14, 2011 4:11 AM BST up reply actions
I know it's not really representative of what he does for us, but I just love that goal.
I think it was the fact we had that home-unbeaten-run going, and Arsenal were about to snap it, and Essien saved out of pretty much nothing.
by Kevin Kostka on Sep 14, 2011 4:18 AM BST up reply actions
Funny you mention that goal..
I know exactly where i was when that goal was scored.. and its definitely my best memory of Essien
I was in my bedroom, in the dark, distraught that our streak was over.
Then that goal. It’s one of the few times I’ve actually jumped up in celebration.
by Kevin Kostka on Sep 14, 2011 10:52 PM BST up reply actions
Meireles
he makes most of his runs and impression without the ball. he put it on full display against us last year. Also when i think of Essien never being the same it really depresses me, its almost like when someone dies and it hits you that you’ll never see them again, thats the feeling i get when I think about it….he was pure class…will never forget the goal he scored in the simi’s against barcelona, one of the most amazing moments in my 26 years celebrating that one.
Graham
any word if the knock Luiz picked up will hinder him going into this weekend?
by Noleforever9399 on Sep 14, 2011 4:01 AM BST reply actions
I know
that he seemed ok when he got back out there but just wondering if you have heard anything.
by Noleforever9399 on Sep 14, 2011 4:02 AM BST up reply actions
Torres for me
Torres worked for the team instead of for himself. I don’t think anyone would have begrudged him having a shot either time, but on both occasions the smarter play was to lay it off, and that’s what he did. And that’s as a striker in the middle of a horrendous drought. That’s why he gets my vote for MotM.
by FootieFromAfar on Sep 14, 2011 4:05 AM BST via iPhone app reply actions
I agree that he was unselfish
But I don’t think that means he deserves MoTM for it. Assist at the end was beautiful but his touch and passing other than that was not very good at all. But it’s a start. I’ll take 2 assists from him every game Instead of him scoring if it brings us a W
by AmericanChelseaFans on Sep 14, 2011 4:24 AM BST via iPhone app up reply actions
it's not just the unselfishness
Today was very much a team effort, with no one in particular standing out. I could see arguments for Mata and / Bob, and not just because they scored the goals. They were key all day. But even then, Torres was also involved all day in a (mostly) positive way and zipping around the pitch.
With no one person standing out, I go for the guy who had a major hand in both goals. Same reason I would give Sturridge the MotM for the past weekend.
by FootieFromAfar on Sep 14, 2011 5:00 AM BST via iPhone app up reply actions
Call me crazy
But I think our best side would be keeping a back 4 of Bosingwa-Terry-Ivanovic-Cole. Play Luiz and Meireles as holding mids allowing Meireles to go forward when he chooses. That would work great providing the following A) Bosingwa keeps playing well B) Luiz is comfortable in that position C) Meirelis can show he’s a better tackler than we think…..I think that will both help our attack and cut down on thoes silly goals we concede (although the lack of pace between Terry and Ivanovic is the downside of this….I don’t suggest we try it against Chicharito and Rooney or anyone with alot of pace up front)
Interesting
I’ve only ever considered Luiz as a DM alone, where he wouldn’t be very good. But as the more defensive in a double pivot, I am intrigued. Although it doesn’t inspire confidence since Luiz and Meireles both like getting forward, whereas Mikel drops back and does the defensive work.
Agree..and also
You don’t want a holding mid on a yellow card – case in point, van Bommel for Milan this morning – and with Luiz somewhat rash and Meireles not going to win world’s greatest tackler any time soon, that’d be a pretty weak double pivot. Might be alright against Sunderland etc but not against Bayer, United.
I think we have enough midfielders
That we don’t NEED to use luiz there. Not only that, but I’m not confident his touch and/or passing are up to what is required of midfielders. He is above that of your standard CB for sure, but not at a mikel or meireles or ramires or lampard or romeu or mceachran level. I like him in the center of defense (even though I cringe when he goes for tackles sometimes)
by AmericanChelseaFans on Sep 14, 2011 4:22 AM BST via iPhone app up reply actions
David Luiz is like a slightly-mentally-challenged puppy.
Most of the time, he’s cute and awesome, but every now and again, he wees on the carpet.
by Kevin Kostka on Sep 14, 2011 4:24 AM BST up reply actions
I don't know, Graham...

Just wait until that one glomps on Wayne Rooney and the referee can’t bring himself to send him off…
by Kevin Kostka on Sep 14, 2011 4:38 AM BST up reply actions
That implies they are a little bit sexy...
Should I be worried about you Graham? :p
by AmericanChelseaFans on Sep 14, 2011 4:39 AM BST via iPhone app up reply actions
The first time Graham laid his eyes on David Luiz
he just got that old-fashioned romantic feeling, where he would do anything to bone him.
by Noleforever9399 on Sep 14, 2011 4:48 AM BST up reply actions
too many hypotheticals.
Luiz is a CB, not a DM. the holding midfielder is expected to keep his position; as a CB Luiz knows that Mikel can drop back if Luiz goes on one of his runs. he also has the other CB to hold the fort. playing DM requires more positional discipline and that’s why Mikel is good, if not flashy.
Meireles will not suddenly become a better tackler; he is known for not being a good tackler, and is just showing us why he has that reputation. he’s also more valuable (as today) being involved in the attacking third.
i’m really looking forward to Ramires being in the lineup we had today (instead of Malouda). the energy and commitment that Luiz and Ramires bring combined will kick things up another notch. Meireles-Ramires-Mikel is the midfield i hope we use. i personally thought that apart from a couple nice tackles Lampard looked terrible in his brief time today and tends to slow down play when he gets the ball now. today’s game was i believe just a glimpse of the tempo and style that AVB has been instilling and i think at some point in the future it’s gonna click into another level.
I really like the Terry-Luiz combo.
They both like getting forward, but they take turns. I like the dynamic.
by Kevin Kostka on Sep 14, 2011 10:54 PM BST up reply actions
You all are correct
I only thought about that when I was trying to think of a way where we wouldn’t have to keep Ivanovic on the bench while still playing Terry. I think he is a huge asset when it comes to set pieces and he’s very good in the Air, could steal us a lot of goals from nothing.
Hi Matthew
Welcome to We Ain’t Got No History! I’m enjoying your contribution to the discussion, but it might be easier to follow if you used the reply button to respond to individual comments.
by Graham MacAree on Sep 14, 2011 4:28 AM BST up reply actions
Hey, no worries
Just trying to make the conversation easier for everyone to read :)
by Graham MacAree on Sep 14, 2011 4:35 AM BST up reply actions
I might not make a lot of fans on this board with this
but I’m not a big Sturridge fan, I think he’s a good player, not a chelsea calibre player. To me he has a lot of Shawn Wright-Phillips in him, gets in good position gets his share of chances but just lacks that last touch of quality that great players have. yes that was a great goal this weekend but he made it harder than it had to be, he butchered his first touch forcing him to take that kind of shot and i think if he tried that 99 more times he wouldn’t score it. I was disappointed when we didnt outbid Liverpool for Suarez, and sell Sturridge for good money later, especially after his bolton performances. Can you imagine Suarez playing the Sturridge role on this team? he would be fantastic.
if we're talking about replacing Sturridge
I’d much rather go with a true right winger (Jesus Navas, anyone?) than a Luis Suarez type (which you could maybe argue Sturridge also falls into). Nothing against Suarez, who is one of the most talented players in the EPL, but a true winger would better suit the needs of the team. That being said, I, for one, would rather not talk about replacing Sturridge because I’ve liked him for years now and am so very happy that he’s finally breaking into the team.
by FootieFromAfar on Sep 14, 2011 4:57 AM BST via iPhone app up reply actions
Jaded
I’m Jaded from all the Chelsea fan sites that went on and on about Miroslav Stotch being the future of Chelsea 2 years ago. I want the best for Sturridge and hope he makes me look silly for the good of Chelsea, but I have a mistrust for him and his type of player that maybe only therapy can fix.
by Matthew Kent on Sep 14, 2011 5:12 AM BST up reply actions
Not sure how much of that blame can be placed on Stoch himself
Different management philosophy back in the day, clearly. We never let him develop properly for us.
Also, imo, Sturridge has a higher ceiling than Miro…and I’m saying that as a big fan of the Slovak Young Generation (Stoch, Weiss, Hamsik, etc.).
Jesus Navas
can’t go 5 ft. outside of Seville without being homesick, which would hinder that transfer. His illness is quite unfortunate because he is quite good.
by Sack O'Gonads on Sep 14, 2011 6:00 AM BST up reply actions
to be fair
sturridge should be the lone striker up top. he is being put out of position, and i think he is doing a pretty stellar job at that. i would love to see us play mata and anelka out wide one time with sturridge in the middle.
Thats how I feel
It’s not like I hate him, I just don’t think Chelsea is the place for him. I think he would have a wonderful career at Tottenham, Sunderland or Stoke City (even QPR now). He is too good of a player to play 5th wheel at a club who lacks a lot of patience like chelsea.
by Matthew Kent on Sep 14, 2011 5:32 AM BST up reply actions
Totally Disagree
I think Sturridge is exactly what Chelsea needs right now. A Young, English(which helps with squad registration), pacey forward, with a bit of trickery and an eye for goal as well.
He scored 8 goals in 11 starts on loan at Bolton last year so he can obviously find the net when needed.
You have to keep in mind that he’s only just turned 22 years old. Let him grow within his role on the right side up front and see what he can do.
To be honest, the first two matches he’s played in, hes justified his place in the starting XI
He is only 22.
The fact that he may have earnt himself a starting spot in this chelsea side at that age is pretty great. In my opinion he’s good enough already, he could be amazing in another 2 years (suarez’s age).
I’m not saying he’ll be as good as suarez but he’s a genuinely great player. We can’t steal all Liverpool’s players.
1) why not ;-) and 2) it's not techically a steal if we are "helping" them with loads of money
Let’s see suarez in a year or two. He may want to move on if ‘pool doesn’t win anything
Suarez
will want to be a Barca player in a few years time if ‘pool doesn’t do anything. Apparently his agent is Pep’s brother and Suarez has already expressed his love for Barca
by Sack O'Gonads on Sep 14, 2011 6:03 AM BST up reply actions
Pep himself may not be there by that time
Cheez, everyone wants to be in Barca, it’s disgusting!..but how many great strikers do they need…
I think a lot depends on how Suarez and his family settle in England and whether they would like to live in London.
The moment he blows a couple sitters in big matches
Chelsea fans will turn on him, I’ve been a Chelsea fan too long. We will turn on him just like I see some fans turning on Mikel. 2-3 years ago people were in love with him, now there are people who actually believe he doesn’t pass the ball forward.
by Matthew Kent on Sep 14, 2011 6:01 AM BST up reply actions
it seems you've already turned on sturridge after one league game where he scored!
and it’s different with mikel, if you don’t pay attention sometimes it’s hard to see what he contributes (i think he’s great, but i can understand why some fans may not see it).
With sturridge there’s a couple of clear statistics that will decide if he’s good enough, goals and assists. He hasn’t had a chance to prove if he’s good enough yet, i’m not saying he’s going to be our right winger for the next ten years, but he has a lot of potential and thinking about a replacement already is the worst thing you can do.
I dont want to replace him
I was saying I thought we should have bought Suarez last year. We didn’t, so i hope Sturridge becomes great, but i’ve heard all of this before with Chelsea fans falling in love like the Miroslav Stotch example i mentioned earlier. like I said, his goal at the weekend was a poor first touch that allowed the keeper to get on him and a lucky flick that went in, but people are regarding it as a wonder goal. I just hope “Danny” as everyone likes to call him can have better first touches…..although I liked his cross to terry in space that set up the first goal.
by Matthew Kent on Sep 14, 2011 6:28 AM BST up reply actions
Sturridge has been one of the five best players on the pitch for two games running
That has nothing to do with Stoch, and everything to do with quality play. And considering he’s only been available to play in those two games thus far, I think we can safely assume he still has time to grow into his role.
Past prospects’ successes and failures should not weigh on the expectations of the current roster.
I'm not sure it's the Chelsea fans "falling in love."
The Chelsea staff seem to think he’s a worth a first-team place. AVB gave him a start as soon as he was available, and he’s impressed. He’s the best right-sided forward at Chelsea right now. I can see him eventually taking the starting job, if we buy a proper right-winger.
Either way, I think Sturridge has a great Chelsea future, and should be here for many years.
by Kevin Kostka on Sep 14, 2011 11:06 PM BST up reply actions
no way.
Sturridge is gonna start kicking major ass. he’s skilled, committed, audacious, and quick enough to dodge raindrops. Suarez is a good player but he’s also a wanker and not quite as fast as Sturridge. and i’m more than happy that Sturridge is our right forward … he is much much better than SWP. his finishing is going to get better and he has the desire and ability to take on defenders, which is crucial to AVB’s system.
Theres a difference between players not living up to expectation
and fans having unrealistic expectations for Chelsea players
Torres' contribution in both goals was important
thats why he gets the vote from me. His part in mata’s goal was of course vital, and he played an equally important part for the first goal (although luiz did the heavylifting of course) – after malouda passed the ball to him, 3 leverkusen defenders was quickly onto him, leaving david luiz free and with space to shoot (huge credit to him for a great shot). just watch the replay and you’ll see
I was so proud of Torres
in the 91st min of a game your already winning, with the media circus swirling around him, the criticism, the goal drought…for him not to try to curl that ball around the keeper and lay it off so Mata could score showed such character. That should show everyone what Torres is about. Im just ashamed and embarrassed as a Chelsea fan that when he assists players the goal scorer has to motion to the crowd and point to Torres to let all the “fans” know, our players shouldn’t have to point things out to the “fans” like that. I’m just cranky watching players light up games for liverpool and City that we could of had but we haggled over a couple million pounds, but we will vastly overpay for the wrong guy. We won’t win any trophies because of this and the “fans” (not on this site) will take it out on the wrong guy named Fernando Torres.
by Matthew Kent on Sep 14, 2011 7:20 AM BST up reply actions
I know it's just Twitter
But it is noteworthy that Mata called out Torres on Twitter, giving him credit for the goal.
Unlike some of the stuff we were discussing yesterday in another thread about some of the French players supposedly not liking Torres – and whatever that means for the team’s play – it does seem that there is some support for him among others. At least they give him credit for nice set-ups.
I'm just surprised somebody found a negative way to interpret Mata's gesture
Sideshow Dave did the same thing after scoring his goal.

If Torres wasn’t liked in the dressing room, neither of those would happen.
Somebody else pointed out how much the team celebrated after Torres scored against West Ham. The players want him to succeed, probably more so than the fans even, and yesterday’s game was a huge step in that direction.
Hindsight is a fabulous thing.
None of the players we “could have had” were sure things. We need to give it a while. If Torres can get a decent run, and get a few goals and his confidence, things will be different.
You also have to remember that not every player will fit in at every club, or that they would have chosen us over their actual destinations. Maybe we were interested, but found out they were set on going elsewhere. I’m not sure Suarez or Aguero would have been anywhere as good for us as they have been elsewhere. There is also no guarantee they will continue to be as good as they have been. Regrets aren’t a good thing, and the past is the past. We can only comment on the present and the future.
by Kevin Kostka on Sep 14, 2011 11:20 PM BST up reply actions
I vote for Torres
less than 24 hours after saying I think he’s done he was the mom for this one laying off for both goals. Well done Nando.
With that said I thought even if brilliant both Studge and Mata were much too reckless with the ball in the late stages of the game loosing posession multiple times in dangerous positions. That said nothing less to be expected perhaps of the youngsters and they are put in the side to take risks while opening up other sides. The back line generally seemed to cope much better with the high line without JT tbfh even if we had quite a few scares, they didn’t atleast run behind us at will…
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I wonder if our D played better or if Bayer's attack was just not that good
Btw, I also like the Texans and live even further away from Houston than you :)
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by RocketsAstros on Sep 14, 2011 4:17 PM BST up reply actions
Torres.
definitely. two assists, the first a subtly good pass allowing Luiz to one-time it, the second fantastic as everyone has pointed out. also VERY happy at that decision at the end. it was a moment and i think it made an impression on both the fans and the team. although he’s been here for a while, and despite the West Ham goal celebration, i felt like THIS was his “Welcome to Chelsea” moment … similar to when Ramires sliced up Man City and scored.
I still feel he hasn't had his Welcome moment yet
But I am expecting it this Sunday.
"Kareem — verb: to be so horrible in coverage that the camera man is forced to zoom out in order to find the defender responsible for whoever just waltzed into the end zone." -Nashmeister
by RocketsAstros on Sep 14, 2011 4:14 PM BST up reply actions
malouda and torres
1st goal – luiz → malouda → torres → luiz
2nd goal – torres → malouda → torres → mata
looks like malouda and torres can work together after all =p
I said Torres would shine before Monday,didnt I ?
I meant for the utd game but he just pre-poned it
by RamStamford on Sep 14, 2011 10:14 AM BST via mobile reply actions
Torres had everything
Everything apart from his first touch and finishing was excellent. There was a study that athletes in the prime of their game play mostly instinctively. When it looks like a striker hits a volley into the net without thinking, He usually did. When you lack confidence you think about it too much. So for now as long as he is getting into the right positions and making the right runs (whether or not he gets the ball) eventually he will score, eventually he’ll get his confidence. I think he’s the one player on the pitch with the most pressure so I’m pleased that he looks up for it and despite everything else he’s still contributing to the teams success.
And anyone who is really worried about United look at their West Brom game and ours. Same result. We still have more to improve and hey don’t have much. But as long as our holding midfielder marks Rooney all game we have a very good chance. Their CM’s aren’t a match for ours and most of their strength comes from Rooney playing deep and their excellent wingers. Ashely will take care of Nani and hopefully Bosingwa will take care of Young. I think we’ve got a very good chance of taking all 3 points
Nice view
Read a fanpost I did on Uniteds strengths and weaknesses
Titled know ur opponent
It didnt receive good response but has some gud discussions there
Seeing ur view I guess u wud like it
Here- www.weaintgotnohistory.com/2011/9/11/2418393/know-your-opponent-manchester-united
by RamStamford on Sep 14, 2011 5:07 PM BST via mobile up reply actions
Nice view
Read a fanpost I did on Uniteds strengths and weaknesses
Titled know ur opponent
It didnt receive good response but has some gud discussions there
Seeing ur view I guess u wud like it
Here- www.weaintgotnohistory.com/2011/9/11/2418393/know-your-opponent-manchester-united
by RamStamford on Sep 14, 2011 5:16 PM BST via mobile up reply actions
Is 19 year old Leno...
Better than our Courtois?? Cuz that Leno is something special indeed.





















