Are Chelsea In Danger Of Falling Out Of The Top 4?
by Graham MacAree on Dec 13, 2011 10:19 PM GMT
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Chelsea have not had their best start to the season. After a reasonably comfortable first few games, we lost 3-1 at Old Trafford and went into something of a tailspin, suffering a referee-aided defeat at Loftus Road before losing back to back Premier League matches at Stamford Bridge to Arsenal and Liverpool, precipitating 'Chelsea in crisis' cries and causing quite reasonable people to worry if the Blues were going to drop out of the top four this season.
Three wins on the bounce - including one against league leaders Manchester City - have made everyone feel a little better about the situation, but there's no doubt that we've subject to one of our worst starts to a season in a while. So, I decided to take a look at the past eight seasons and see where teams with a certain number of points (actually, points per game) on December 13th ended up. Graph coming up after the jump...
Figure 1: Finishing positions in the Premier League table vs. points per game on December 13th, 2003-2011.
Obviously, we don't know for sure how things will end up this year, but we can use historical data in a number of ways. Let's take a look at Chelsea's chances this year first. So far this year, the Blues have taken 31 points in 15 games, good for 2.07 points per match. Despite the rough patch, they're currently in third place in the table, although Tottenham Hotspur are level on points and have a game in hand.
The mark of 2.07 ppg is well below where the ultimate winners and runners-up were at this point in the majority of the seasons we've looked at, but it's marginally higher than the average third-placed team and comfortably better than the average 4th place side, who were normally at 1.78 points per match in mid-December. To translate that to Chelsea this year, we'd have to have turned one of our wins into a loss and another into a draw before we drop below that threshold.
No team holding a ppg over 2 at this point in the season has dropped out of the Champions League places since this data set began. Only twice has a team finished lower than third place. Obviously, this year will mark the third time that's happened, because there are four teams with ppgs over 2, but based on what we have in front of us, Chelsea should be feeling pretty comfortable about their ability to finish in the top for (as should Tottenham).
Statistics are, of course, guides rather than accurate predictors of the future, so don't go betting tonnes of money on us making the top four this year or anything just because you read this, but I'd be fairly confident that we'll be alright. I was expecting a third placed finish when we started the season, and that still sounds about right to me now.
Other less-Chelsea-related tidbits:
- Manchester City and United both have higher ppgs at this point in the season than the average title winner, which is amazing (especially for a very shaky United). If not for a very good run by Sir Alex Ferguson's team, City would be running away with the title. Instead, they're only a draw ahead of their arch-nemeses.
- If the fact that each team is on a better run than the average winner doesn't impress you, consider this: Out of the 180 teams looked at, only two (Chelsea in 05/06 and Manchester United in 06/07) have better points per game tallies than United this year.
- The top seven places this year are significantly better than they have been in the past. Everyone else is slightly worse. If not for major injuries to Newcastle United and Liverpool that will even the playfield a little bit, we could have seen a huge chasm appear between the Europa sides and the mid-table teams. That's weird.
- Bolton Wanderers and Blackburn Rovers are probably boned. Sorry y'all.
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It will be a shame to see the Lion of Vienna Suite get relegated to the Bleacher Report
Should have played Kakuta more…
by Stephen Schmidt on Dec 13, 2011 10:24 PM GMT reply actions
Am I the only one
driven mad by all their slideshows? Forget that most the authors are kids that have yet to take basic English courses (or at least seem it)…
I never go there
It’s such garbage in general that I don’t even waste my time opening links that I know go there. Those slideshows are ridiculous though.
by Stephen Schmidt on Dec 14, 2011 4:07 PM GMT up reply actions
I usually avoid it
but sometimes find the headlines or topics so comical I pay a visit to get a good laugh.
"Top 7" vs. a "Big Three" or "Big Four"
I think partially explains why the 7 highest placed teams are ahead of the average pace of the last decade…
You would think it might equalize between the big/top teams, but it appears that they’re taking the “extra” points from the lower half of the table.
I don’t think if that makes sense to anyone buy me. I know what I’m trying to say…anyone else?
The top 7 are taking more points from the lower sides than the "big four" in seasons gone by?
Therefore making a bigger chasm.
Right, the "Top 7" are becoming the Top 7 by taking extra points from the bottom half
Rather than scalping points from the previous Big 3 or 4.
I just bet my mortgage on Chelsea finishing in the top four
Thanks for the advice Graham!
by FootieFromAfar on Dec 13, 2011 11:32 PM GMT via mobile reply actions
I see the same top four as last season finishing top this season
maybe in different order but the same teams. Also in ridiculous transfer “news” Torres to Arsenal! ROFL
by Sabrina Dessipe on Dec 13, 2011 11:37 PM GMT reply actions
I'm still not sold on Arsenal, they aren't all that deep if RVP was to get hurt
I really like this Spuds team as well, not the deepest but they have fantastic balance
by Stephen Schmidt on Dec 13, 2011 11:55 PM GMT up reply actions
We certainly will
I just don’t trust some of those guys to stay healthy considering the history they have
by Stephen Schmidt on Dec 14, 2011 2:19 AM GMT up reply actions
I have a pretty good feeling Wenger will get a striker in January
Not Torres or Kalou. He’s been bragging about how much we have to spend. Very unlike Wenger. Plus I just have a good feeling that everything will be alright for once. Depth means very little to Arsenal. At the moment we have FOUR injured fullbacks last season at one point we had FOUR injured keepers. We could have all the depth in the world in any position, if injuries are going to kill us then injuries are going to kill us.
I know I should be taking Spurs more seriously as a threat but I just can’t. Maybe in January. I’d like to see how we end the “festive period” before I make any serious predictions about how things will end. Not long ago people were talking about City going unbeaten.
by Sabrina Dessipe on Dec 14, 2011 2:56 AM GMT up reply actions
No!
Why must you torture me with those words!? JK
Oh wait!
Torres doesn't celebrate in this picure. That's one of their clues.
Mata and Meireles arent celebrating either. CRYSIS!
I love that it is that they picked up on
rather than that RDM and AVB are clearly double fist-pumping and gettin’ jiggy with it. Add that AVB is also droppin’ it like it’s hot. Dancing SKILLS, this team has!
Iberian players not celebrating with team
CHELSEA IN CRISIS!!!!!!
by Sabrina Dessipe on Dec 14, 2011 12:17 PM GMT up reply actions
Torres, Mata and Meireles all set for Real Madrid switch
AVB convinces Real coach and close friend Jose Mourinho to make bid for wantaway trio, after they admit “the goal celebrations are too intense for us”.
by Al Benson on Dec 14, 2011 12:56 PM GMT up reply actions 1 recs
Man
they had me fooled! Or did they? You never know with that AVB! Muahahahahha.
Anyhow, I will take the sale rumors in my newsfeed any day over the other crap that keeps showing up… damn you, Justin Bieber! Get out of my feed!
Hahahaha!
That is really a hilarious piece of professional journalism and the dark side of me is sad this is only junk, though. Since I’m actually thinking Torres will be scoring again if he went to Arsenal.
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Anything over 5 mill would be over paying!
It would be hilarious if we got him and he started scoring again.
by Sabrina Dessipe on Dec 14, 2011 12:14 PM GMT up reply actions
Seriously, I do really think he would
but metro junk says: A Chelsea spokesperson has come out and denied. An anonymous Chelsea spokesperson also said AVB wants to be involved in goal celebrations. We have many mysterious anonymous Chelsea spokespersons these days
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I'd sooner sell him back to Liverpool
than to Arsenal. A bunch of Liverpool fans were already getting all hyped up over this “news” report and started suggesting they buy him or exchange him for Andy Carroll. Ha! Liverpool would have to pay Chelsea to take on Carroll.
Do those Pool fans actually have a life?
I mean, getting on fire because of an Ex-player who doesn’t love you is quite a feat
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Aww
I wouldn’t say he doesn’t love them. Far from it, actually. I do think the most of them are too closed-minded to look past their own club management’s failings, draping it in a cloak of their beloved club history… so I think they are guilty only of buying whatever Liverpool’s PR and management sold them… and perhaps being too fanatical. Being that their owner is a famous sports team owner from my whereabouts and some of his current dealings are not all appreciated here, I can only suggest to them that they really ought to think twice about his dealings there and those of the previous owners.
But some seem to want him to play the prodigal son that comes home. Just don’t think it would happen through Chelsea (maybe if he went elsewhere first and then back).
He said himself upon the transfer
that he doesn’t love Liverpool and he doesn’t love Chelsea. Now I know he said this in regard he loves his childhood club, and nothing against that, but nonetheless that’s quite a bold statement for both Pool and Chelsea fans. So that’s funny there are Pool fans who still get excited about a player who has said this publicly. For me, that’ll be enough; I’ll cheer him as long as he is with us, but I won’t care once he leaves. Love is reciprocal, they say …
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Doesn't love Liverpool or Chelsea
the clubs (like you said, in comparison with Atletico… as in he will never kiss any other badge)… I think he has a soft spot in his heart for the fans, though. And it seems he has an appreciation for the Chelsea fans as well, being that they (sometimes) cheer him on even while he is in the dumps. Sometimes he is even so kind as to kick someone in the nosebleeds one of the game balls. ;)
I think it's probably meant this way
nonetheless that kind of statement seems somewhat unfortunate to me, though. Saying literally you don’t love the club but some months (!!!) later you love their fans is not an outright contradiction but somewhat difficult to grasp and swallow for a Chelsea loving Chelsea fan.
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I'll probably sound like an idiot for saying this, but I'd make a straight trade of the two in a heartbeat
Neither one has been particularly good, but Carroll is much younger and on less than a third of Fernando’s wages. Just the difference in wages would clear almost 25 million pounds off the budget in the next 4 years
by Stephen Schmidt on Dec 14, 2011 9:53 PM GMT up reply actions
DEAL!
lol He really wants to go back to Bordeaux, the place we got him for free, and they seem to want him back. We’ll probably sell him back to them in the summer.
I’d take Kalou for Chamakh though. Kalou is a super sub while Chamakh isn’t super anything right now.
by Sabrina Dessipe on Dec 15, 2011 1:31 PM GMT up reply actions
Kalou is gonna leave for a free in summer
We might get Chamakh and sell him for 5 mil and buy another Romeu..
Free? I believe that might be Wengers favorite word lol
I’m pretty sure we’ll sell him to Bordeaux in the summer.
by Sabrina Dessipe on Dec 15, 2011 6:12 PM GMT up reply actions
Not an idiot at all
but let’s just say, I’m not surprised at your response ;)
No I wont have him
Although you reason is Okay but If we let Torres go I bet we can get 20 mil..And for that we can bu somene way better than Carroll
I wonder who will take him for 20m
Or any transfer fee, since those who would pay for him are those clubs he doesn’t wanna go to.
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But I thought it was common knowledge
He doesn’t want to go to Malaga, because in Spain nowhere else except his childhood club would do?
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Theoretically yes but Chelsea and Pool are both England and not Spain
but IF he went back to La Liga then he would only consider one club, and that would be be his beloved childhood club.
(yes I’m trying not to sound sarcastic)
Alas I don’t know exactly since I had Torres on /ignore before he came to Chelsea, so I can’t say this for sure.
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When considering his options to leave Liverpool
in hindsight, he has said that Chelsea was really the only one, and it was the most attractive option. If ManU offered he wouldn’t go, if ManCity offered he would consider it, but they didn’t come back a second time, he didn’t seem opposed to Barca but they weren’t interested and he felt he’d be little use to their team, and he said he would never go to Real. So it seems that other teams have crossed his mind, but I don’t believe he’d really do it because he wouldn’t want to play against his childhood club (he never has… was injured and didn’t even make the trip as a VIP on both occasions that Liverpool played them). He doesn’t much care for the Italian league… has said he might want to play there one day, but has also said he doesn’t care for the style of the league.
Should note that Chelsea was on the list of potentials to bring him to England in the first place, but Benitez was the only manager to call him up and let him know specifically how he was going to be used on the team (much like AVB did Mata)… that and the Spanish contingency brought him there. If not for that, he might have stayed another year at Atletico and then gone on to ManU or Chelsea (Arsenal were spoken of as a team he thought about because of Cesc, but they never really entered the bidding picture because, well, he has a buyout clause that Wenger would laugh in the face of).
And there you have it… I know WAY too much about this guy and his transfer dealings of yore. That’s what I get for an addition to Wikipedia and weaving my way around endless articles about nothing important at around 2am.
Oh...
also… I dont think he wants back at Spain yet. He still seems pretty bent on the EPL being the best league for him, and doesn’t much care for the Spanish media and fan’s invasion of his private life. I think it was as recent as his Esquire interview that he spoke about that again.
He basically said AFTER he was slowly being called the Flop transfer
What other teams could I have gone to? I couldn’t go to Manchester United out of respect for Pool. Or Real Madrid, because of my past. I don’t think Barcelona needed anyone. I didn’t like the idea of Italy. Chelsea were the only club left. There was only option.
Sounds quite sour to me, the lad. Come to Chelsea not because you want to but because there was only one option. Sounds like a Bioware dialogue … huh …
Nonetheless, since he said on the transfer press conference he wants to retire at AM because this is the one and true and only and real mad burning love, I conclude besides Real and Barca and AM he’d not consider any other club in Spain. That would include Malaga, since they would be the only club in Spain who could afford a transfer fee. And that’s what I basically wanna say. The clubs who could afford his transfer fee (and wages) aren’t the ones he’d move to (Malaga, Anzhi, PSG, Shenhua and others), and those he’d move to aren’t the ones who are interested. And Daily Mail knows!
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If he really fell out with Chelsea and the EPL
like had no chance ever again of doing anything and would just sit and die on a bench… and if PSG do bring in Benitez, I could see that happening. But, that would of course, be a last ditch effort.
Because Ligue 1
is the bottom of the big boys barrel, basically. I’d sooner see him at the Bundesliga (which I wouldn’t mind if they would show it in my TV listings!!)
I can't imagine any club in the Bundesliga
would get him … they’re still sour over 2008. Can’t really imagine a club who would be interested in hi, but if there is one – I’d go there and hold up my Chelsea flag! Ha!
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Chances are we'd loan him out first
before parting ways permanently – like Sheva
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Also
you didn’t think he WANTED to go to Chelsea in his heart of hearts, did you? He wanted CL football in the EPL that wasn’t ManU. Only so many teams it could be, and Roman just loved him to smithereens!
But it’s very much a business to him. So yeah, I wouldn’t expect diehard Chelsea fans to give much for him, but then, there are only a few players on the Chelsea squad that I think would really ever stand by the team with better offers elsewhere. Loyalty in any industry can do more damage than good much of the time.
Just realized
this sounds like I am being mean… I don’t intend for it to! The interwebz is a hard place to convey things, sometimes.
Oh coming to Chelsea because of CL
and saying so outright, in another sentence with “I don’t love Chelsea” is yet another thing. Many diehard Chelsea fans care for the club, and they like it when players do it, too. There is a reason why David Luiz is so popular, and why people hope he’ll succeed JT. Maybe deep in his heart Chelsea’s only a piss to him, but at least he shows at least he does care. If a new Chelsea player – one who has a hilarious history with Chelsea at another club – comes to Chelsea and the first thing he says was “I don’t love Chelsea”, followed by “There was only one option” – that’s just weird you know. Now I suppose that wasn’t smart wording after all and not personal dislike, but it sounds so sour. Football is showbiz, too, and for the good of all of us – the show must go on, and maybe we’re all just going around faking our smiles. And if it’s all business for him as you claim – then it would be even easier for him to setup a smile and fake as if the sun was shining … basically that’s part of the business, too.
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I wouldn't much like a player coming into my club
and saying stuff like that either.
by Sabrina Dessipe on Dec 15, 2011 9:15 PM GMT up reply actions
At the beginning shortly after the transfer, that was
One was on the transfer press conference and another was in March shortly before the Citeh game. I wouldn’t mind so much if a player with years at Chelsea said something like this (I wouldn’t like it certainly), but so early in his Chelsea career … just so unnecessary, really. You don’t need to tell the truth all the days
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That's hardly going to help you win over the fans
That’s why I like this transfer window. All the players we signed seem to really like being there and a few of them are fans and really love the club.
by Sabrina Dessipe on Dec 15, 2011 9:27 PM GMT up reply actions
Hmm
I don’t think for a moment that Luiz wouldn’t leave Chelsea if a better offer came along. But that’s just me. In fact, I tend to think a lot of Chelsea is made up of players of that type.. and it will happen often in a league with so many foreign players. To me, Terry, Lampard, and maybe Drogba are about as Chelsea-standby as it gets. And even they could be tempted.
Like the Romeu situation, I maybe try to bear in mind that players will come and go no matter how special they may be to a given club, and so I try my best not to get attached that way. For instance, Liverpool are so stuck on Suarez that they don’t even realize they are setting themselves up for the same damned thing all over again… they attach themselves much too much to singular players, and rest assured, he’ll break their hearts.
Dont get me wrong… I certainly have an emotional connection to sports… it would be dull otherwise, but I like to protect myself from the big devastations.. .maybe because I have experienced gigantic transfer drama in another sport. Or maybe I just have a cold stance on it because of my time in the Entertainment biz… which as you mentioned, football surely is!
All that said, I agree that Torres could have phrased things in a more PC way for marketing purposes. Doesn’t do him any favors… but I don’t think any Chelsea fans are under the illusion that he came for any other reason.
I think you don't get my idea
I’m not saying who was about to stay or not. And to be honest – I don’t care the slightest why David Luiz left Benfica, why Frank Lampard left West Spam, why Sturridge left Citeh, why Mikel left Manure, why Torres left Pool. I, and besides me, many Chelsea fans do, care about Chelsea the club, and we want and hope Chelsea players care, too. Now it could happen David Luiz doesn’t care about Chelsea too much when Barca come knocking around. It could be deep down in Luiz’ heart he doesn’t care for Chelsea either, but at least he doesn’t come to the public and say such things. On and off the pitch he gives the impression that he cares. That is all. We can’t look into players’ heads and demand conscience checks, that would be silly. But certainly it’s quite usual fans love players who care, or seem to care about Chelsea as a whole, and the fans, because we all, we all are Chelsea. Now if a player comes out, just some days after he put pen to paper with “I don’t love Chelsea” and then, some weeks later, followed by a bold statement “I didn’t have a choice” – that not as strong as spitting into the fans’ faces, but it gives a sour impression. We have a guy here who seemingly wants to win the fans’ hearts and then he comes up with those things. As Sabrina says, this isn’t an entirely Chelsea-Pool issue, no fan would be really happy to read / hear those things.
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And
if a player comes out says such things like Torres did shortly after his transfer this doesn’t give you an impression he was very involved and cares about his new club. Especially how often Torres p*ssed on us in the past. Not only this doesn’t help, it even deteriorates everything.
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Especially if he's not even scoring any goals
by Sabrina Dessipe on Dec 15, 2011 9:47 PM GMT up reply actions
Well, not sure he is trying to not score goals...
doesn’t exactly help him get anywhere else!
But… enough about Torres from me for now. I wish sometimes that any other player had all this crap attached to him so I’d not talk about him so much. I like talking football stuff and the background politics and his is an interesting case study to me, but I’m sure that no one wants to hear about him anymore. Bring the next window and transfer drama fast! I need something new to gab about.
Nah
I got it… and I am not arguing your right to feel upset with whatever was said. There isn’t anything saying that anyone has to like or support him… after all, many here have thrown their gripes out and would rather see him leave.
I just don’t think anyone ever thought it was anything otherwise… thus why it was a strange transfer in the first place. Fans didnt want him, manager didnt want him, he didnt really want them in return, but it happened anyway.
Again… I don’t think the comments went over well and I wouldn’t exactly feel splendid over them as a long-time Chelsea fan (remember, I picked the team only after AVB arrived, so I am not really in the camp that was affected by his comments). Fans don’t have to support him now, but for some reason, some do. Maybe it is just because he wears Chelsea Blue, or some other reason. Fans have a prerogative to sort of feel however they want, so I wont argue against that… I would just be surprised to hear if any fans thought he came for any reason but to escape Liverpool and get in the CL.
United have played all of the Top 6 at home
plus they played Spurs when they were missing basically all of their good players, Arsenal before they signed anyone, and us before we really gelled (and got pretty lucky in that game as it was). They are way more shaky than their points suggest.
City, on the other hand, have played most of the Top 6 (except Arsenal) away from home already, and have spanked Spurs and United, with a loss to us and a draw to Liverpool. Makes their point total even more impressive.
by ComesOutToEssien on Dec 14, 2011 12:01 AM GMT reply actions
It looks like a very interesting race.
If we assume that Newcastle is going to fall away a bit due to injuries (fairly safe) and that the two Manchester teams will lock up two of the Champions League spots (also fairly safe, although I agree that Man U seems a little dodgier than their ppg average suggests), then there are really four teams (Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham, and Liverpool) fighting for the last two spots. Both Arsenal and Tottenham rely heavily on players who are not exactly known for their durability (RVP, Vermaelen, Walcott, van der Vaart, Bale, Lennon, King), but when those players have been healthy this year, those teams have been very, very good. Liverpool has gotten some good results against other top sides (beat CHE, beat ARS, drew with MANC), but they’ve also given away a lot of points against lesser sides. Chelsea’s done a little of that as well, but has mainly failed to get points in their matches against the other top sides (0 from MANU, ARS, LIV). I also don’t think we’re quite as reliant on somewhat injury-prone players as Arsenal and Tottenham.
I think Liverpool’s inconsistent form will be their undoing, which leaves two spots for three London clubs. I like our chances if we can maintain our current run of form (or at least not dip too from it too often) and I think I like Tottenham a bit more than Arsenal, especially if Tottenham drops out of the Europa League at the group stage (which seems likely). They just seem to have a slightly more balanced team than Arsenal. The wear and tear of EPL and Champions League campaigns could be too much for Arsenal. Then again, if RVP can stay healthy, his torrid form alone might be enough to keep them in the top four. He’s had an absolutely blistering 2011.
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I'm still quite confident we'll make into the Top4
this year, however I have to say besides the financial catastrophe that will come over us if dropping out, I’m not worried so much if we drop to 5th or 6th, since all the mistakes over the last years (offering crazy contract extension packages, lenient and horrible on the transfer market, sacking and hiring managers randomly) can’t be pass unpunished. That would be the bitter pill I accept to swallow if that was the case. It’s way too early to say who will make it into the Top4, there’s a lot of tension, teams rise and fall (Spuds I’m looking at you). How do you say? You shouldn’t laud the day before the evening … and it’s not evening yet! Hear, Arry?
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In better news
David Luiz passes his English test! I fully expect more interviews from him now, with equal amounts of hilarity from the times he didn’t speak a word of English.
I dont think the danger is more then last year
Sure City and Spurs have improve but Utd and Arsenal are not as good as last season..I honestly feel we can finish above Utd. The reason being Utd dont have any good CM,excluding Cleverley. Rami,Meireles,Romeu,Lampard and maybe even Mikel is better then Utd midfielders(excluding Cleverley) Sure they have a better striker(although I hate that Mand n Fat player), even he is a hit and miss. With Vidic missing I think we even have a better defense then Utd as Cole.Terry are better then Evra,Ferdinand I take Jones and Luiz at same level,although if you take out Luiz’s fouls he is better and at RB Rafael is better then Iva but Rafael is mostly injured and Jones and Smalling are at the same leve as Iva and Cech is also better then De Gea. Really think Utd are higher just due to the fact they somehow are always able to get a result.
I think City are gonna finish on top and then it would be us Utd and Spurs in the remaining CL places in any.
Spurs are quite good a team and if they can keep King fit to play the PL then they can have a good season.
As for Liverpool they are not able to get results against small teams and hence will drop lots of points and they are not a good team, If you take Suarez out and Gerrard remains out they are screwed. Lucas injury has already given them a huge blow and increased pressure on Adam who I think is quite good but not as the same level as Modric.
As for Arsenal I dont know for how long they are gonna rely on injury prone RVP, even he is a human and I am quite sure they are again gonna suffer another mild crisis which will make them finish 5th.
I think we are good enough to finish in the Top 4(most probably 2 or 3). Yes if we go on committing stupid mistakes like against Arsenal we can drop out of the top 4 but in the recent week we are good enough.
After the CL out against Basel
Rooney didn’t score for how many minutes? 720? That would be more than another non-firing striker’s record. It seems Rooney is a extremely mood-driven player as well – once he’s on fire, he’s good, but forturnately, most of the time, he simply isn’t
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